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TeacherENOkay, today we continue talking about
TeacherENthe sati vipassana, right? Yesterday we talked about cayandu vipassana.
TeacherENHuh? Yes?
InterpreterENYeah, yeah.
TeacherENSo yesterday we were talking about cayandu vipassana. So today we continue talking about vedanandu vipassana.
TeacherENSo every time we have a
TeacherENsun,
TeacherENevery experience kind, the mind is creating. Liking, disliking, right? So every time you have a feeling: pleasant, unpleasant, and neutral, then we are aware that this feeling we call vedanandu vipassana.
TeacherENEvery time we experience a calm, bodily sensation, or seeing, hearing, smelling, then the mind is
TeacherENreacting. So then liking, disliking comes. So when we are aware that this liking—pleasant feeling, unpleasant feeling, and neutral feeling—that means this is what we call vedanandu vipassana.
TeacherENIf the bodily sensation is pleasant and sukha, the mind is dominant-sub-vedananda, it's pleasant. If the bodily is dukkha, the mind is unpleasant feeling. If your bodily sensation is neutral, then the mind also neutral. Neutral means upekkha.
TeacherENNot liking, not disliking.
TeacherENSo object also all the time contact is happening. For instance, all the time is experience is contact is happening all the time. So the feeling also all the time happening. Pleasant or unpleasant or neutral.
TeacherENOne or other.
TeacherENSo we are watching the vedanā what for? We want to understanding what is the vedanā.
TeacherENWhy this feeling arising?
TeacherENHow they are working?
TeacherENSo we want to understanding the feeling process. That's why we are watching the vedanandu vipassana, watching the feeling.
TeacherENSo whatever object we are watching, cayandu vipassana or vedanandu vipassana,
TeacherENwe are watching because we want to understanding this is what it is. How this happen? Why this happen? How, what relationship have? So everything we want to understand this bodily process, vedanā process. That's why we are aware, we are watching.
TeacherENThat's why we said we are aware. Not blindly aware. Aware and wisdom. Wisdom means the mind is curious, the mind wants to understand, wants to know. That's why we are interested to watch the process beginning to end.
TeacherENAnd Buddha also advised wherever we are watching, with the wisdom.
TeacherENSo he said whatever happening, arising, you need to know
TeacherENwhat is arising. You need to know what is arising. Also, what is disappear, you need to know
TeacherENwhat is disappear.
TeacherENAnd also, not finished yet. He continues talking about this. Why this happen? Or, and why this disappear?
TeacherENOr, and why this become increase? Why this is become decrease?
TeacherENThat means we are not thinking about the process. We want to understand, we are more aware and see the process again and again and again.
TeacherENSo when you are watching your emotion come, then emotion is decrease. So this is not finished yet. You need to know about why this, this emotion is decrease. Before,
TeacherENthe emotion is increase. Now you are aware. That's why the mind, the emotion is decrease. So why this happen?
TeacherENFor example, for example, when you watch the anger.
TeacherENWhen you watch the anger, then you know the anger arising.
TeacherENAnd why this anger arising? Why the anger is increasing? Why the anger is decreasing? Why the anger began disappear? So you try to aware the process again and again.
TeacherENSo that means we are aware with the wisdom. Then the mind become more interest.
TeacherENSo we call this is the Dhamma Vipassana tâm bố thí. Dhamma Vipassana tâm bố thí. You know?
InterpreterENYou know. Dhamma.
TeacherENInvestigating, investigating.
InterpreterENInvestigation.
TeacherENInvestigation.
TeacherENSo then every time you use your wisdom, what are you doing?
TeacherENDo you have wisdom?
TeacherENWhen you use the wisdom, what are you doing?
InterpreterENYou, uh, you, uh, ask a question?
TeacherENYes, yes.
TeacherENThe blue-ish question, right?
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENMostly, mostly the blue-ish question. What is this? Then the mind become more interest. And look, what is this?
TeacherENHow, how this happen?
TeacherENHow to do?
TeacherENThinking, right? When you use your wisdom, you always thinking.
TeacherENSo wisdom thinking. Wisdom also, you must have wisdom. If you use the wisdom, you must be thinking.
TeacherENWhat is this? How this happen? Why this happen?
TeacherENRight? Is it right or wrong? Superficial or not?
TeacherENSo that's why when you are meditating time, awareness and some this wisdom thinking is necessary.
TeacherENThen your mind become more interest. So not sleepy.
TeacherENMy experience, my teacher teach me how to practice this investigating.
TeacherENWhen I practice Anapana, he asked me, uh, what happening in breathe in, breathe out. He asked me. Then I know, oh, breathe in, breathe out, this touching. Cold, warm, I know. Then,
TeacherENand he's asking again, why this breathing happening? Why breathing is happen? You aware always, one hour you aware the breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out. Then you ask me, why this happen?
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENWhy this happen?
YogiVIWhy this breathing is happening?
InterpreterVIDạ, tại sao cái sự hơi thở này nó xảy ra? Tại sao như vậy? Lý do nào mà có hơi thở?
TeacherENThen I don't know. But I know I, I, I thinking and asking question. I, I try to answer with my thinking. Uh, because of this, because of that. But I actually, I don't know. I'm just thinking because of life, want to live. So this is not experientially understanding.
TeacherENThis is your thinking.
TeacherENThen I want to know. He said go and practice. Go and sit in Dhamma for a while. So then I try to aware.
TeacherENWhy this happen? Why this happen?
TeacherENFor one week I cannot find an answer.
TeacherENBecause, because, because I'm very greedy. I want to get answer immediately. And craving very strong, strong craving and watching. Because of craving, the mind cannot, wisdom cannot come.
TeacherENAnd I become headache.
TeacherENThen after one week, I feel, I feel very headache. Uh, enough, enough.
TeacherENAnd relax. And I try to aware, simply aware the breathe in, breathe out.
TeacherENThen I become relaxed. I give up the mind, want to know very strongly this craving. I relax the this craving, then let go. The mind become calm down. Suddenly I can see the intention to breathe.
TeacherENSo when you breathe, you close the, you, you, you close your breath.
TeacherENWhat happening?
TeacherENAnd then the mind want to breathe, right?
TeacherENThis is a very obvious, but the natural process is more subtle.
TeacherENThen I realize, oh, because of breathe, intention to breathe, then breathe is happening. Then intention to breathe out, the breathe out, breathe out is happening. Then I realize, oh, because of intention, the action is coming.
TeacherENThat understanding is a cause and effect. Understanding the cause and effect.
TeacherENBecause of this, because of that.
TeacherENWhen you understanding this cause and effect, then you become more realize this nobody is breathing. The body and mind breathing process is happening.
TeacherENSo we
TeacherENcall, we call this we are experience, we are watching the experience and then understanding arising. We call bhāvanāmyāpāñña, experientially understanding arise.
TeacherENỪ, that's an understanding about anattā also.
TeacherENỪ, so
TeacherENthis is, that's why I said not blindly aware. Try to interest to be aware.
TeacherENOkay. This is a, in, in how to investigate the process, huh, watching with the wisdom.
TeacherENAnd also citta-nubbā-sanā is we try to aware the mental process, all mental process. We call citta-nubbā-sanā.
TeacherENIn the five agree five, five faculty huh. There's a rupa, nama, one rupa, four nama. Right? So there's a knowing mind,
TeacherENuh, vijñāna, feeling, uh, vedanā, vijñāna, vedanā, saññā, saṅkhāra.
InterpreterENUh, yes.
InterpreterVINăm cái, năm cái uẩn đó đó. Nó đó, trong đó một là thuộc về thân và bốn cái khác là thuộc về tâm. Sắc là thuộc về thân nè. Bốn cái, bốn cái còn lại, thọ, tưởng, hành, thức là thuộc về tâm.
TeacherENKnowing mind is a knowing the object. Knowing object, knowing the object.
TeacherENVedanā is feeling.
TeacherENAnd saññā is perception.
TeacherENAnd saṅkhāra is pollution.
TeacherENSo every mental state you are watching, you are aware, that we call citta-nubbā-sanā.
TeacherENSo after the kāyā and vedanā and citta,
TeacherENthen you become understanding this is nobody, just a nature. And that time we call dhamma-nubbā-sanā, practice of dhamma-nubbā-sanā.
TeacherENSo nobody, just a nature.
TeacherENThat meaning is a dhamma-nubbā-sanā.
TeacherENSo now we are trying to practice continuously. Then awareness become better and better. Then
TeacherENyou can know the many objects.
TeacherENYou know the body sensation. At the same time you know the feeling. Same time you know the thinking. And also idea, intention, and action. If you know that this whole process, then that time you can easy to investigate better.
TeacherENSo if you, but you need to be awareness become more mental, huh, continuously. Then the awareness becomes stronger, stronger and become more mental.
TeacherENThen that time it become more mental. Then the mind is more aware with the whole body.
TeacherENSo very, the mind become, awareness become very busy to know. Body sensation, feeling, thinking, action also.
TeacherENSo awareness jyoti is sati. Sati awareness jyoti is he try to collect the data, the information. If you complete data come, the wisdom can decide, oh, what it is, how this happened.
TeacherENỪ, so that's why that you need to understand the whole sati-patta, nasuta, kāyā, vedanā, citta, dharma. You must know, uh, skill to everything to practice about this whole kind of foundation of meditation.
TeacherENSo if you want to understanding cause and effect, you need to know about body and mind walking together.
TeacherENThat's why you need to scale how to watch your mind, not only the body.
TeacherENYour picture is complete that the wisdom can come.
TeacherENThat's why we need to aware the whole, all the time, about whatever happening in the body, what happening in the mind. Try to, try to recognize.
TeacherENAgain, again, again.
TeacherENOkay. That's it, sir.
TeacherENMeditating with the awakening, with the wisdom, huh.
TeacherENOkay. So
TeacherENnow try to ask some questions.
TeacherENTell me about your experience, some experience.
YogiVIDạ, thưa ngài, là sau khi con thực tập theo lời ngài thiền sư chỉ dạy là giữ chánh niệm trong tứ oai nghi, thì con thực hành được nhiều lợi lạc hơn, nên là con muốn hỏi ngài thiền sư xem là có đúng hay không.
InterpreterVIỜ, hỏi đi.
InterpreterENShe say that to practice
InterpreterENsaddhā, uh, uh, teaching that to watch everything like a process. So she watched the pain and she say it start very light, then a little bit more increase, and then become very, very strong, the pain.
YogiVIỪ,
TeacherENừ. Then the mind don't feel anything?
InterpreterENThe mind don't react anything.
YogiVIOkay.
InterpreterENAlso sensation. Pain but at the same time hard,
InterpreterENdifferent sensation that arise with the pain.
TeacherENYeah, okay.
InterpreterENWhen she watched, then the pain disappeared.
YogiVIỪ, cái cơn đau nó là một cái cụm. Thì tại vì cái tâm con nó không có đủ để nó quan sát. Nhưng mà khi con ngồi á thì con thấy trong cái cụm đó nó có rất là nhiều cái cụm nhỏ.
InterpreterVIKhi đau, khi đi thì thấy một cụm. Mà khi ngồi thì thấy từng cái nhỏ nhỏ trong đó.
InterpreterENShe do walking meditation, she see the pain like the whole thing, like a block. But when she do the sitting, the observation is more strong. She see the small, small spot in there.
TeacherENOh, okay.
YogiVIỪ, con thấy cái cơn đau nó giống như là nó có nhiều cái hình dáng khác nhau.
InterpreterVICó hình dáng hả?
InterpreterENShe say that sometimes like water, it start one spot and it spread out.
InterpreterENYeah, if I don't observe more carefully, I see just the pain like that. But if I'm watched deeply, I see that it's like a root coming from one point and spread out.
InterpreterENThe pain, the pain in my back, it's not just one but many. And come and go, come and go graduately. This one come and go, next one come and go. People in like that.
YogiVIRồi con cũng, sau khi mà con, con thả lỏng thân tâm á thì con cũng có, hôm trước về trong cái thời gian nghỉ ngơi á, các cô ồn quá thì con có, cũng có tâm sân. Thì con cũng thử quan sát tâm sân của mình thì.
InterpreterVIThử thôi, ở trong làm thiệt nè.
InterpreterENShe say that when she go back to her, uh, the place she stayed, and then the people around become a lot of noise, and she see that her mind is angry. And she try to walk, try only to watch the anger.
TeacherENOkay, okay. Thank you.
InterpreterENYeah, what she say?
TeacherENYeah, good.
InterpreterENAll right, good.
InterpreterENThe relationship between the anger and the body sensation.
TeacherENYeah, okay.
InterpreterENLike the, you have some kind of harness on the abdomen and then go up the heart, heartbeat in the lung.
TeacherENYeah.
InterpreterENLike that.
InterpreterENAnd the head very tense.
TeacherENOkay.
YogiENThì.
TeacherENSo why you are angry?
InterpreterENBecause it's time to sleep.
InterpreterENDuring the practice. And the time this have people rest.
TeacherENOkay.
YogiVIMà các cô làm những cái hành động nó.
TeacherENBut this is not right answer.
TeacherENSo next time angry come, then watch the angry and more aware of your thoughts also together, huh.
YogiVICon tính ra con chửi lộn.
InterpreterVIChửi lộn hả?
InterpreterENI want to go out and yell at them.
TeacherENSo when the angry come, that all next thought is a negative.
YogiVIDạ đúng.
YogiVITại vì trong cái đời sống hàng ngày của con thì con.
TeacherENThat time is a very good to, uh, learning, learning nature of the anger. When the anger coming, how do you feel, what do you think. Try to aware the this thing, huh.
TeacherENAnd also, and also, when the mind calm down, then you need to check the object. The mind is knowing the object and the awareness. Do you know these three things walking together?
InterpreterENShwe Oo Min, you say again, there is object.
TeacherENObject and knowing the object.
TeacherENAnd awareness.
TeacherENOr watching mind.
TeacherENThis is the object. The mind know the object.
TeacherENThen next one is watching.
YogiVIHôm trước ngài có dạy.
TeacherENNo, no, no. Just checking, just.
TeacherENEspecially with other people, huh.
InterpreterENShe say that when you talking about intention, I watch and I see that the intention, the action.
TeacherENOkay, good, good.
InterpreterENShe say I recognize more action in my body. Like the body, the heat and cold and the touch and everything. Just more, more, more sensation.
TeacherENYes.
InterpreterENAnd the tension in my knee and relaxing somewhere, things like that.
InterpreterVIThôi được rồi, thôi không có chi tiết gì nữa.
YogiVINhưng mà trong cái lúc mà con tập trung chánh niệm á thì, ờ, giống như ngài nói, chắc con cũng bị mất năng lượng nhiều á vì là.
InterpreterVITập trung nhiều quá hả?
InterpreterENShe say that I lose a lot of energy because I concentrate too much.
TeacherENWhat?
InterpreterENConcentration. She concentrate on what she doing. So she lose the energy.
TeacherENShe lose?
InterpreterENShe lost too much energy because that she tried.
TeacherENOh, oh.
InterpreterENThat means spend energy, so.
TeacherENSo after you try and practice, you do, are you tired or not?
YogiVIDạ không. Cái lúc con hành thiền con thấy mệt. Tại vì cái lúc mà con tác ý hành thiền là nó không phóng tâm luôn. Cả.
InterpreterVIKhông, câu hỏi là thầy nói là tại vì con sử dụng quá nhiều năng lượng mà con nói vậy phải không? Thì con có thấy mệt không?
InterpreterENAfter, after meditation I feel tired.
TeacherENYes, that's why. It just mean is you use a lot of energy over.
InterpreterENWhen she sit, come back to sit, no, no wandering mind at all. The mind very concentrated.
TeacherENOkay, so that time you check very often. Next time very often check your attention or not.
YogiVILúc quan sát con thấy nó bình thường mà. Nó cứ làm việc liên tục, liên tục. Nó có.
InterpreterVITại vì con không có để ý. Tại vì cái kết quả là mệt mỏi nè. Điều đó có nghĩa là trong cái thời gian mình tập á, cái tâm mình nó rất là căng thẳng. Để mình không để ý. Mình ham chạy theo đối tượng. Bây giờ người ta kêu mình trở lại qua cái tâm của mình. Chứ không phải cứ chạy theo đối tượng không thôi.
InterpreterVIĐược chưa? Thôi bỏ xuống. Cười.
InterpreterVIDạ, cô kế tiếp đi. Quý vị nhớ giùm thứ tự chứ sư cũng không biết nó đưa tay sư cũng hoảng rồi.
YogiVIDạ, con thưa thiền sư, con thưa sư Trí Dũng. Con xin trình bày cái buổi thiền ngày hôm nay của con. Cái thời thiền bắt đầu lúc 4 giờ sáng tới 5 giờ sáng á, thì trước khi vào thời thiền á, con cũng quan sát cái,
YogiVIquan sát cái tâm của mình. Quan sát coi nó đang có bị khẩn trương, hồi hộp hay gì không. Nó đang có bị, bị.
InterpreterVICăng thẳng.
InterpreterENShe say that in the sitting before from 4 to 5, when I start doing the meditation, I check my mind. How is my mind feel? Tense or not, relaxed or not.
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENShe see that the relationship between the emotion, anger, unhappy, then the her chest very heavy.
TeacherENOkay, right.
InterpreterENWhen everything's okay, now I start meditate. But when outside is warm, heat, so I see that my mind react.
InterpreterVITâm nó, nó, nó dâng lên hả? Nó, nó bực hả?
YogiVINó bắt đầu nó hơi khó chịu.
InterpreterVIKhó chịu. Khó chịu when the outside hot.
InterpreterENWhen, when the mind is khó chịu, then I can feel the chest increase.
TeacherENYes, tension.
InterpreterENThen I watch, watch, watch what in slow decrease.
InterpreterENI also watch the chảo coming from outside. And sometimes some sensation on my face, like an ant crawling. And I see my mind don't like it.
TeacherENOh.
TeacherENSo every time your mind is dislike or liking or dislike come, then you come into the feeling. Aware the feeling.
InterpreterENDạ. When I start watching the reaction of my mind, he increase a little bit and then disappear.
TeacherENThen come back to the object.
InterpreterENShe say that after some time sitting, now I don't do it intentionally, but I feel my left, my head very light. And then the knowing spread out. The knowing.
TeacherENKnowing spread out.
InterpreterENYeah. This, this part of the body, the head, very light and very calm.
TeacherENYes. Okay.
TeacherENYeah. Just aware that this happen.
YogiVIDạ. Mà con, con cảm thấy cái đó nó rất là lạ. Nó có thể quan sát. Có nghĩa là nó rất là yên mà nó có thể biết được xung quanh của nó đang có những cái tiếng động.
InterpreterVIOh, oh, oh. Nhưng mà cô có thích cái đó không?
YogiVIDạ không.
InterpreterVIDạ.
InterpreterENI ask her if you like it. She say no, I don't like, but I see that my mind feel that the awareness stronger. When this part.
TeacherENMore interest. The mind become more interest.
InterpreterENShe say this one is watching, not my mind.
InterpreterENThe part of the right, her head.
TeacherENYeah, yeah. Knowing mind is, uh, knowing mind is watching, right?
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENYes. The mind is watching. That is the right view, yes.
InterpreterENSometimes it's so early in the morning, I feel it's a little bit sleepy. But this part of the mind, very clear.
TeacherENOkay. Continue maintain the awareness.
YogiVIDạ.
InterpreterVIThôi đưa máy cho người khác cái cầm gì hỏi. Tôi nói được rồi mà.
YogiVIDạ. Con còn một câu nữa. Con muốn hỏi sư một, một cái vấn đề này nữa.
InterpreterVINói rõ ràng là một câu mà thành hai nè. Hỏi cái gì?
InterpreterENShe say that if somebody tell me something that I don't like, I see that my mind react. Mind don't like. And at the same time, body sensation arrive. Hot and cold, whatever.
TeacherENYeah, right.
InterpreterENTension, things like that.
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENBut when I, when all it come down, the anger come down, I, I think back about the story. Then the anger come back again.
InterpreterENI try. I try to see what happen if I think about the story.
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENAnd then anger come back.
TeacherENThis process, try to aware again and again.
YogiVIDạ.
InterpreterVICó nghĩa là cái sự hiểu biết của mình nó chưa tới. Do đó khi mình quay trở lại mình nghĩ nó nữa là nó nổi sân lên lại.
InterpreterENBut she can see the, the intensity of the anger. Every time I come back, say for the first time I can, now A9, 9, A.
TeacherENA and slowly.
InterpreterENDegree.
TeacherENSlowly.
InterpreterENDegree.
TeacherENBut now, now you can see because of thoughts, the anger arising, no?
YogiVIDạ. Tới, tới.
InterpreterVITâm là cảm xúc nè. Cái cảm thấy mà sân, sân hận là cảm xúc. Mà cái tâm mình suy nghĩ, do đó cái cảm xúc nó khởi lên.
InterpreterENDạ. I, I try to practice until the image come back, the story come back, but my mind don't react anymore.
TeacherENOkay. Yeah.
InterpreterENDo I do it right? It's right to do that.
TeacherENOkay. Right. Good.
YogiVIDạ thưa thiền sư, cho con hỏi trước được không ạ?
InterpreterVICô muốn hỏi trước thôi. Thôi để nhường cho cô đi.
YogiVIDạ. Con đợi từ hôm qua á.
InterpreterVICô đưa hăng hái quá là cô giục cái micro cái chết rồi. Rồi. Nói sao?
InterpreterENI do the walking meditation, then I experience the touch of my feet. I see the movement of my hand. I can see the hearing that comes from outside.
YogiVINhưng con.
InterpreterVICái nghe hay cái đọc.
TeacherENWait, wait, wait. Hearing is not outside.
InterpreterENNo, she says hearing.
InterpreterVICon nghe cái gì? Con tưởng nghe tiếng động bên ngoài vô hả?
InterpreterENShe said, uh,
InterpreterVIngài nói là tiếng động không ở bên ngoài. Tiếng động không nào ở bên ngoài vô.
TeacherENHearing is your, is your body.
TeacherENHere, here.
TeacherENNot outside.
InterpreterVIÀ nghe, nghe, nghe bằng tai nhưng mà có cái tâm nữa.
YogiVIDạ.
InterpreterVICái này cái căn rồi có thêm cái tâm nữa. Tiếng động nó vô nó chỉ hở. Ba cái nó hỗ trợ lại. Nó ở trong này chứ không ở ngoài.
YogiVIDạ. Vậy con thấy mọi cảm nhận đó nó ở mức trung bình. Nhưng đến khi con cũng tiếp tục thì con thấy khi con tập trung vào sự xúc chạm dưới bàn chân thì các giác quan khác thì nó.
InterpreterVIMờ đi.
InterpreterENIf I concentrate on the touch of my feet against the wall, against the floor, then the all the object become blur.
TeacherENOkay. Yeah. That's the naturally blurred idea.
InterpreterENSo should I concentrate on my in the touch of my feet or I just open my eye and my mind to aware of anything?
TeacherENNo, no. Yeah, you can. Okay, okay. That's okay. You can aware with your touch, your leg also.
InterpreterENYeah, but she say that I keep aware only the touch. It's still okay to.
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENBut she say that in watching my looking at something in the crowd like this, why my mind pay attention on somebody, pay attention on some object?
TeacherENYeah. That's the meaning. Pay attention is look at the, pay attention is looking.
InterpreterENYeah. But she said that she asked herself so many objects, but the mind go to the one object.
TeacherENWhy?
InterpreterENLook. Yeah, why?
TeacherENAsk and check.
YogiVIDạ. Với lại trong cái thời thiền buổi sáng nay, mỗi khi thực hành con có rất nhiều câu hỏi tại sao.
YogiVIVà con mỗi lần mà con có những câu hỏi đấy thì con thường ghi ra. Nhưng mà đến khi con nhận thấy là con ghi ra và con bị cuốn theo những cái câu hỏi đấy.
InterpreterVIỪ. Không, sư chưa hiểu. Mà có nhiều câu hỏi đặt ra hỏi tại sao. Tại sao cái gì, cái gì hả?
InterpreterENShe say that today early in the morning I practice, I see that my mind keep asking why, why, why, why. Then I write it down. But finally I say that no need to do it.
TeacherENYeah. No need to think too much.
InterpreterENBecause the mind thinking.
TeacherENYeah, too much.
TeacherENThere's some experience happening, then you get aware of the process, then you can, you can ask why or what or how.
InterpreterENOh. She say that at lunch I cannot sleep. After lunch I cannot sleep because then I find out that I'm eager, the eagerness to get some result of the practice.
TeacherENOkay. Okay. That's also very good to know.
TeacherENVery important to know.
InterpreterENShe say that I don't know where this awareness comes because I think about it or what happened. To recognize my loba.
TeacherENYes. So?
InterpreterENShe asks because she recognized that she doesn't want to sleep because she wants to get the result of the practice. When she recognized like that, is that thinking or?
TeacherENYou're not thinking. This is you're aware. You know. You're aware.
TeacherENRealize. Realize knowing. Realizing.
YogiVIDạ thưa sư, cho con hỏi thêm nữa là khi con thực hành thì con thường xuyên thay đổi đối tượng để quan sát. Vì con có suy nghĩ là nếu mà quan sát một đối tượng khá lâu thì con sẽ bị chán.
InterpreterVICó đổi đối tượng là quan sát cái hơi thở rồi bỏ hơi thở, quan sát cái chỗ khác hả?
YogiVIDạ đúng rồi.
InterpreterVICòn nếu mà tiếp tục một cái thì nó chán.
InterpreterENShe say that
InterpreterENwhen I do meditation, I watch all objects. I don't watch too long. I change the object. I enjoy the object. Because if I keep watching one object, I get bored. Bored.
TeacherENBored.
InterpreterENYeah.
YogiVINhư vậy thì con có tinh tấn không?
TeacherENBoring, boring is not right. Because you want a new one. You want to get new ones or strange, strange objects. That's why you become bored. So every time you watch this object, you become bored. You watch your boring mind first. Then come back to your object.
TeacherENWhy you are boring.
YogiVILà con sẽ tiếp tục quan sát cái đối tượng đấy khi mà con chán.
InterpreterVIRồi qua cái tâm chán. Qua cái tâm chán.
YogiVIQua tâm chán.
InterpreterVICon trả máy cho thiền sư.
YogiVIDạ con cảm ơn thiền sư.
InterpreterVIÀ à mô phận chuyển lên cho.
InterpreterENUh, she, he say that he don't understand what the Chittanupassana. Because they say this practice is Chittanupassana. Chittanupassana practice. Yeah. So Sadha, please explain to him.
TeacherENJust now I talking about you just knowing about your mind.
TeacherENI'm talking about your thoughts. Your thoughts, your feeling, your mental state.
TeacherENKnowing mind. Watching mind.
YogiVIInitiating mind.
InterpreterVITâm tác ý.
YogiVITinh thinh.
InterpreterVIHọc giả là mình nói là vừa rồi đó, chán nản, buồn phiền đó, mấy cái đó là tâm không à.
TeacherENFeeling.
TeacherENSo you asking yourself what the mind doing.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENOr what the mind is happening.
TeacherENDo you know your thoughts?
TeacherENYes. This is mind.
TeacherENDo you know your feeling?
InterpreterENYes. Yeah.
TeacherENNow you are touching the mind, right?
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENDo you know the mind, the know? Do you know the touching sensation?
TeacherENKnowing is mind.
TeacherENWhy, why you know this sensation?
TeacherENWhy do you know this sensation?
InterpreterENBecause your intention. So I.
TeacherENBecause of, because of your watching.
TeacherENThe mind is watching.
TeacherENAll right. Watching is mind.
TeacherENAwareness is mind. Pay attention is mind.
TeacherENAlso, do you know you are looking?
TeacherENYeah. This is a mind.
TeacherENSo this is you already practice the Chittanupassana.
TeacherENOkay.
YogiVIThì hỏi không?
InterpreterVIOk. Túc lúa phía sau à?
YogiVICon ngồi đây sư.
InterpreterVIDạ.
InterpreterVIĐây. Đôi khi ngồi sao cái cột không thấy đường á.
InterpreterVIRa ngoài đi con. Ra ngoài này luôn đi. Ra ngoài thì sư thấy à. Tại sư chứng kiến ốm quá thì sư không thấy đường.
InterpreterVIÀ.
YogiVIDạ. Con con kính chào ngài. Dạ.
YogiVICon to lên.
InterpreterENDạ I want to report about my this morning practice.
InterpreterENDạ. When I do walking meditation, the mindfulness is good.
YogiVIỪ. Chân con lúc đó là giống như đi trên máy đi bộ luôn đi, với tốc độ rất là nhanh.
InterpreterVIỪ.
YogiENTại vì.
InterpreterENThe mind, the leg, the walking fast.
InterpreterVITại sao đi nhanh chi vậy?
InterpreterENOr, or she say that she want to walk. See what happen when I want to walk faster. And then she walk very fast like on the treading, the machine, the walking machine.
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENYeah.
InterpreterENThe mind calm, the body balanced, and don't feel heavy, light.
TeacherENYeah. You can practice also running, running also. Jogging also you can practice.
TeacherENBody, the mind is more faster than body.
InterpreterENỪ. She, in the sitting, I pay attention on the intention to breathe, breathe in and breathe out.
InterpreterENI see the intention to breathe in, intention to breathe out. Ừ.
InterpreterENAfter at the end of the sitting, I feel my mind is not clear, cloudy.
TeacherENNot clear?
InterpreterENNot very clear.
InterpreterENThe mindfulness decrease. Mindfulness is not strong as before.
InterpreterENMaybe I do a wrong way of watching, or maybe I use too much energy.
TeacherENYes. Because of tired, the mind become more not clear.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENAnd you use a lot of energy.
TeacherENLost, lost the energy.
YogiVIDạ. Cho nên sao cái đó.
TeacherENIf you practice right, then long time, more, more longer, the mind become more stable and more clear and clear.
TeacherENIf you long time practice, the mind become going down means it's something wrong.
InterpreterENShe say that she think that she tired because she try to interfere in the breath, make it breath slower so she can observe more.
TeacherENYes.
InterpreterENCan see more clear.
TeacherENNo, no, no. That's, that is a problem.
TeacherENBut, but you cannot avoid this. Beginning practice, sometimes people they, they try very hard.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENAnd then slowly they notice this over energy. They didn't understand. Then they can become balance weight.
TeacherENThey find the balance weight. Because of this, after over, you, you notice they are over, then the mind become understand how to balance.
InterpreterENShe say like I'm create something. I make a breath as I want. I watch them.
TeacherENYes. Yes. So now you notice this is not right.
TeacherENSo meditation process is must be natural, better.
TeacherENArtificial or creating is not natural.
InterpreterENShe say that
InterpreterENbased on the experience in the morning. In the afternoon I just let it go. Just watch naturally.
TeacherENYes. Yes.
InterpreterENThe breath become normal. Very easy.
TeacherENMore easier. More smooth. Yes.
InterpreterENBut mindfulness is not good.
TeacherENIf you too much relax also not good.
TeacherENBalance is this way and that way. You must understand this also, that also, then you can find the middle way.
TeacherENSo this is a learning process. This hopefully very good.
YogiVIDạ. Câu hỏi con là hết. Con cảm ơn sư.
InterpreterVIỒ.
YogiVIAi hỏi? Ai hỏi?
YogiVIAi hỏi?
InterpreterENMorning, early the morning sitting I have a sleepiness. And yesterday Sadhāw say that sleepiness very easy to watch, but I don't know how to what to watch.
TeacherENSo open.
TeacherENAnd standing.
YogiVISư con nghĩ là cái quan sát mà để quan sát được mà nó không bị rơi vào giấc ngủ là chắc là phải ngay từ khởi đầu mà. Nhưng mình mới cảm thấy là cái mắt mình nó nặng nặng, mờ.
InterpreterVILà phải mở mắt.
YogiVIMình nó mờ mờ là mình là.
InterpreterVIMở phải mở, lo mở mắt ra rồi. Ngay từ lúc đầu đó.
InterpreterENShe say that from that on I understand that to be have the vīriya, have start very beginning.
TeacherENYes.
InterpreterENFrom the, from the first minute of the sitting.
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENUntil the end.
TeacherENThat's good.
YogiVICon, con cũng bị vấn đề là.
InterpreterVINgày hôm qua đó ngài dặn á, ngài nói trong khi mình ngồi đó.
TeacherENSleepiness is not, sleepiness is not big problem no.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENIf you understanding this how to do, this also very important.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENTo understanding. Now you, he she understanding you need to effort beginning to end.
InterpreterENYeah. Yeah.
TeacherENRight?
InterpreterENYes.
TeacherENThis understanding what we need.
TeacherENHow
TeacherENto practice. Understanding how to practice also very important.
TeacherENIf you cannot understanding how to practice very well then your progress is difficult.
TeacherENNow people are trying to practice this with, with again and again and again. That, that state, that situation is they are learning how to practice. Understand how to practice. If you more understanding how to practice then the practice become more smoother and smoother.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENThen you can balance, you can maintain the balance long time.
TeacherENThey are practicing up and down, up and down. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. But try again and again and again. These like this, the mind understanding how to practice. Then this experience is become
TeacherENbalance.
InterpreterENStable.
TeacherENYeah, stable.
TeacherENGood. Good.
InterpreterENShe say that you, you talking about intention. Maybe she misunderstand. Intention that mean you want to, to do it. But when I sleep I don't go to breathe anything. The breath go normally.
TeacherENYou sleep. That's why you don't know.
YogiVIVới cả khi mà mình đang hít vào.
InterpreterVIĐể cái máy vô.
InterpreterENYeah. She say the breath come very natural.
TeacherENYes.
InterpreterENIf I breathe in I don't want to breathe out. No, I cannot.
TeacherENVery subtle. Very subtle at the time.
TeacherENIf you that time someone come to close like this.
InterpreterENSo that this intention is a cause and effect. It's not because I want it.
TeacherENYeah. You not want it. The mind want it.
TeacherENYou are not exist.
InterpreterENWhen you control your breath that mean you put more effort.
TeacherENYeah. A lot of energy to control.
InterpreterENEnergy. Đúng rồi.
TeacherENNatural process is a very subtle energy. Intention is there.
YogiVICon muốn hỏi một cái nữa là muốn.
InterpreterVIMấy một mấy cái thôi đó. Nó một cái là nhớ ngay. Rồi.
YogiVIVâng. Con muốn hỏi làm sao để là chắc được mình là mình đang có thái độ.
InterpreterVIĐừng tránh.
YogiVISai. Sai.
InterpreterVISai rồi sai. À thay đổi đúng chưa? Thay đổi đúng chưa?
InterpreterENShe say that sometimes I feel very tired in my practice.
TeacherENWhat?
InterpreterENVery tired. Very tired.
TeacherENTired?
InterpreterENTired.
TeacherENTired.
InterpreterENNot yet. Very tired.
TeacherENVery tired.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENSo be careful. Just check your energy.
TeacherENJust like, just like her. Too much tense and too much relax. You need to balance yourself.
TeacherENThat's why when you're practicing time very often check your mind tired or not.
TeacherENIf you know the mind become tired you don't notice very easy to relax. But if you long time that tiredness become more longer. Increasing.
YogiVINhưng con hiểu là cái nguyên nhân mệt nó có hai xuất phát từ hai vấn đề. Một vấn đề là mình sử dụng quá nhiều năng lượng. Vấn đề thứ hai là cái thái độ của mình chưa được đúng ấy.
InterpreterVIỪ. Cái đó.
InterpreterENShe say the reason why I feel tired because I use a lot of energy and my I don't have right attitude there. What is not the right attitude Sadhāw? Tell me.
TeacherENRight attitude is thinking not first you need to know wrong attitude. Wrong attitude mean it's thinking about craving, angry, aversion. That's a wrong attitude. Right attitude is your knowledge. You know the knowledge about the meditation technique. Right?
TeacherENRight attitude mean is you are thinking the nature as it's a nobody there.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENBecause of I. Then the mind one thing is more increase.
YogiVIDạ vâng. Thế con nên nói chuyện với tâm về cái thái độ đúng đấy để, để trước khi thực hành cũng nhắc nhở tâm, đối thoại với tâm về cái việc thái độ đúng.
InterpreterVIĐó thì nhắc nó là đây là cái những hiện tượng tự nhiên này không có ai trong này hết. Mình đừng có kiểm soát. Mình đừng có chỉ huy theo ý của mình. Để yên cho nó vận hành. Rồi mình quan sát mà thôi.
YogiVIDạ vâng ạ. Con cảm ơn sư.
InterpreterVIMô Phật.
InterpreterVICô kia đang ngồi chờ kìa. Đó. Con muốn con ra sau phía sau sắp hàng. Dạ. Nói đi, nói đi, sư nghe.
YogiVIDạ vâng sư. Xin thưa kính chào thiền sư.
TeacherENOkay. This one last one ha. After this finish.
InterpreterENI tell them about in our DV.
InterpreterVIVị nào mà có cái vấn đề là không có muốn hỏi ở đây vì là vấn đề ngại ngùng hoặc giả là có những cái vấn đề nó có tính cách cá nhân á và muốn trình riêng với thiền sư á thì ngài nói buổi trưa đó có thể qua bên đó nhưng mà cái số người qua bên đó mà đông quá thì ngài lo cũng không nổi thì vì vậy phải báo cho sư biết là ngày mai con muốn qua con gặp ngài để con nói chuyện để vậy để sư biết trình với ngài. Quý vị nhớ giùm sư.
InterpreterVIĐừng có chặn sư ngoài kia mà hỏi nữa. Tại vì sư cũng mệt quá sư chịu cũng không nổi. Gần 80 tuổi rồi mà. Cho sư sống cho. Dạ rồi mô Phật.
YogiVIVâng. Ngày hôm qua và hôm nay con có cái trạng thái thiền. Con ngồi thiền một lúc thì rơi vào một trạng thái là tâm mình nó vắng lặng. Con nghe thấy.
InterpreterVITâm yên, vắng lặng.
InterpreterENShe say one time I sit today the mind very quiet, very calm.
InterpreterENThere are many sounds arise.
TeacherENSound.
InterpreterENYeah, sound.
TeacherENYeah.
InterpreterENBut the mind don't react à.
InterpreterENShe say the she say she asked her question what what's the mind doing. I want the mind more active. Don't, don't, don't because she say the mind don't react à. She want a different.
TeacherENSo what the meditation is not one thing or one thing this or one thing that whatever happen just recognizing the.
YogiVIDạ. Thế lúc đó thì con mới mở mắt ra để con nhìn bức tượng Phật ở phía trước và con xem xem tâm con nó hoạt động gì. Thì tâm con nó cũng vẫn vắng lặng như vậy. Nó không hoạt động gì cả.
InterpreterVIThì sư để yên như vậy thôi.
YogiVIVâng. Thì con muốn hỏi là nếu mà trong trạng thái như thế thì cái sự phát triển và sự học hỏi của tâm có diễn ra được không ạ?
InterpreterVICái gì của tâm sẽ diễn ra? Học hỏi. Học hỏi.
TeacherENOh.
InterpreterENShe say if my mind keep very calm like that, even I open my eyes and look at the Buddha image ha, there's no reaction, no thing.
InterpreterENThat help me to improve my practice.
TeacherENIf you want to know why, then you can to continue watch and learn.
TeacherENIf you want to know why this happen then beginning to end, begin to beginning to study meditate and all continuously if you know then you can you can think why this happen.
TeacherENWhat are you doing.
TeacherENNormally the mind not quiet like this. This is some reason happening. That's why the mind become quiet.
TeacherENBefore this happen what are you doing.
TeacherENSo you if you want to know why you need to know the process.
TeacherENContinuously then you can understand why.
InterpreterENShe say that when the mind quiet and I find an object different object to make my mind a little bit active.
TeacherENActive.
InterpreterENYeah. But.
TeacherENYeah. You and you can do the awareness more object.
TeacherENSo this quiet time is ready for investigate. You need to more use your sometime you need to use question and make my mind more awake.
TeacherENHow many object do you know.
TeacherENDo you know the object? Do you know the no mind? Do you know the awareness?
TeacherENSo you ask asking like this the mind become active.
YogiENOm tamas.
TeacherENSa đu mừng nghê.
InterpreterENYou talking about the English.
TeacherENYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I.
Sayadaw U Tejaniya
Shwe Oo Min Dhamma Sukha Tawya, Yangon
Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…
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