Skip to content
WisdomKey
Sayadaw U Tejaniya
TalksEN

Quán thân niệm xứ

Sayadaw U Tejaniya · Shwe Oo Min Online for VN Yogis · · 1:19:30 · 0 plays

0:001:19:30
Download

About this talk

Audio is played exactly as uploaded: no normalisation, no transcoding.

Transcript

This talk mixes Vietnamese and English. The Tiếng Việt and English views use the interpreter's own words where there are any; the rest is machine translation, marked as such. Original shows the words as spoken. Click a timestamp to listen from there.

TeacherENOkay, now—today we're talking about Kayandu Vipassanā, because someone asked the
TeacherENone who practices Kayandu Vipassanā how to practice Kayandu Vipassanā.
InterpreterENHow to practice rupa, they say?
TeacherENKayandu Vipassanā, they said.
TeacherENSo, actually, whatever happening in the bodily sensation is you are aware the body, the whole body action, all happening is Kayandu Vipassanā.
TeacherENFor example, if you
TeacherENsit in time, you aware the anapana,
TeacherENthen you aware the noosphere, the
TeacherENair go in, you can feel free sensation, touching, or
TeacherENone whole any sensation in the noosphere, then you can aware of this.
InterpreterENThis is Kayandu Vipassanā, yeah.
InterpreterVIỪ, ờ, thiền sư nói ví dụ chẳng hạn quý vị ngồi mà quý vị duy trì chánh niệm về hơi thở của quý vị, ờ, nó thở vô thở ra ở ngay cái đầu chóp mũi này. Bạn ghi nhận một cái cảm giác gì ở đó, hoặc giả là cảm giác nóng, lạnh, hoặc nhột nhạt gì đó, thì cái này bạn nhận biết cái hơi thở này từ trong thân. Cái này là gọi là quán thân niệm xứ. Vì vậy, quán hơi thở tức là quán thân niệm xứ.
TeacherENAnd also, some bodies use the rising falling also, you pay attention to your abdomen or chest, it comes up and down, then you can feel the movement, try to aware of this movement.
TeacherENBut rising falling is, the important isn't to know the movement of body, movement.
TeacherENAnd some body, some people, they practice in sitting, touching, right? So touching is you touching the ground, upper and downper part is all touching the ground, you know the touching sensation, and sitting in is your back support, your back is support to the body, you can feel the supporting energy, that means it's sitting, touching.
TeacherENBut—
InterpreterENYes, yes, say that.
TeacherENBut we don't use the labeling,
TeacherENwe use the direct knowing the sensation, direct know the object.
TeacherENSo Kayandu Vipassanā means you aware that the whole body, any part of your body, it's Kayandu Vipassanā, you can know.
TeacherENLabeling is not important, direct know the object is important.
TeacherENAnd walking meditation, your mind, attention to the leg, then you can feel touching, leg is moving, stepping,
TeacherENso you can aware this feeling.
TeacherENDon't use the labeling of left, right, left like this is not important. The mind, attention to your leg, pay attention to the leg, then what do you feel? Touching, hardness, softness, movement, then you can aware of this object.
TeacherENFor beginner, the body sensation is important to, easy to know, easy to know, aware.
TeacherENSo first we aware the every step, left, your leg, walking, step by step, your mind, attention to your leg, every step.
TeacherENIf you notice the time, if you notice the mind is thinking, recognize the thinking, and bring back your attention to your leg.
TeacherENSo the leg is, for walking meditation, the leg is a main object.
TeacherENRight. And also the whole body, any sensation also you can know, then you can use as an object.
TeacherENSo in Sati Padmana Sutta, the Buddha's advice is: when you are walking time,
TeacherENawareness must be present. Any part of your body can aware.
TeacherENAnd if your awareness becomes better and better, if your awareness, your, stick to today, your body,
TeacherENmore become habit, then slowly the mind knows the whole body, not only the leg.
TeacherENWhen you are walking time, the body is moving also, you can aware this body is moving.
TeacherENSome people, they aware the hand is moving.
TeacherENỪ. So you need to challenge every step, try to aware the daily activity.
TeacherENYou need to challenge yourself. For example, when you come back, come to the Dhamma hall, in your room, try to remind you, I will aware every step, go to the Dhamma hall.
TeacherENSo daily activity, your whole body is, all the whole body is moving.
TeacherENIf you open the door, close the door, your attention to your leg, your hand.
TeacherENTouching, turning, pushing, or pulling, you can aware this bodily action.
TeacherENAnd also, other activity also, every time you taking the things, or put the things, your hand moving, you try to aware that your hand is moving.
TeacherENAnd also you standing, sit down, or stand up, you aware your body action is a, is a Kayandu Vipassanā.
TeacherENYou know, for example, if you are,
TeacherENuh, sit down and standing, what do you, what can you aware of?
InterpreterENSit down and standing, what?
InterpreterVIỜ, khi bạn đang ngồi nè, bây giờ bạn muốn chuẩn bị đứng dậy nè, thì khi mà đứng dậy như vậy thì bạn thấy được cái gì, bạn quan sát cái gì.
TeacherENYou can use the knee, knee sensation, knee is energy, use the energy for knee.
YogiVIDạ.
InterpreterVIDạ, bạn có thể cảm nhận được cái, cái sự chuyển động của cái đầu gối của mình.
TeacherENIf you're standing, your whole body becomes lifting up, you can feel.
TeacherENSo you can aware of the every part of your body, this also Kayandu Vipassanā.
TeacherENSo important thing is that when you use the, practice Kayandu Vipassanā, be careful about your
TeacherENfocusing energy.
TeacherENSo whatever you watch your bodily sensation, then you check your mind also, tense or relaxed. If you become tense, then you use a lot of energy.
TeacherENIn eating time also, you can aware your chewing, taking the food, putting in your mouth, chewing, swallowing, then you, you can aware this is Kayandu Vipassanā also.
TeacherENSo you can practice in daily activity, uh, you need to, how to use, the short time, short time challenging, huh, this time to that time, I try to aware continuously, and next time, try to, this is a determination, use the determination to awareness continue.
TeacherENSo if you continue practice like this, detail in your bodily sensation, the mind becomes easy to tense, because if you focus too much, so you need to check your mind relaxed or not.
TeacherENSo now can you practice this bodily sensation?
TeacherENOkay, so.
InterpreterENYes.
TeacherENNow you can start with the
TeacherENquestion-answer.
TeacherENYesterday, the last one, yesterday the last one lecture.
TeacherENLast one, yesterday, last one.
YogiVICuối cùng ngày hôm qua đó.
InterpreterVIĐây là, đây nè, đã đưa tay đó, đã, đã.
TeacherENNo, no, no, not this one, not this one.
YogiVIHôm qua trả lời rồi hả?
InterpreterVIỜ.
YogiVIĐây, đây, hôm qua vì người ta bây giờ thay tâm thay đổi sư.
InterpreterVIÀ, tâm thay đổi.
InterpreterENHe doesn't want to answer anymore.
TeacherENOh, okay, okay.
YogiVICon, con bạch ngài vậy thầy sư ạ, à, khi mà con đi kinh hành ấy, thì con có quan sát sự xúc chạm giữa bàn chân và sàn nhà.
InterpreterVIVâng.
InterpreterENUh, I watch, when I do walking meditation, I watch the, the touch between my, my feet and the floor, and I feel some hardness, uh, softness.
InterpreterENAlso the touch of my rope against my leg.
YogiENOkay, yes.
InterpreterENUh, also the dust on the floor, it, it, it stick on my feet there, so I have some that silk feeling.
YogiVIVâng, nhưng mà hôm qua con có sự mất chánh niệm ấy, thì con đang đi, thì con đi trên sàn nhà, con bị dẫm vào cái đinh, à, dẫm vào cái, cái, cái rằm ấy ạ, vào chân con, thì là dẫm vào rằm.
InterpreterVIDẫm, okay.
YogiVIVâng ạ, thì là có sự cảm thọ vào chân, là nó đau, kiểu như là.
InterpreterVIMất chánh niệm là làm gì, mất chánh niệm?
InterpreterENUh, oh, oh, yesterday I was so hurry, so when I walk, I step on the, some kind of a very sharp thing.
TeacherENOkay.
YogiVITại vì con đi thế, xong bây giờ là con đi thì con cảm thấy đau, đau thì cứ, cứ lần nữa đi.
InterpreterVIFeel pain.
InterpreterENSo I cannot walk because it's so pain, so I, like, like, uh, only once, once back of my leg only, the other one doesn't work very well. She racked me her leg.
YogiVIVâng, thì là, thì là con cũng chú tâm vào đấy, nhưng mà tâm con thì cũng biết rằng là, à, bị, bị đau, nhưng mà kiểu như là mình bảo thôi.
InterpreterVIKhông có phản ứng nhiều lắm.
InterpreterENEven the pain, but my mind don't react too much.
TeacherENOkay.
InterpreterENProbably because I'm so hurry, it's a lesson for me not hurry next time.
TeacherENYes. So every time you're doing action, aware that your action, if the mind has hurry or eagerness is arising, then aware the eagerness and hurry first.
InterpreterENUm, I think that way, so the pain becomes lesser. Is that right or not?
TeacherENYes, right.
InterpreterENThat's all, thank you, Sayadaw.
YogiVIOh, phạt, xả thú, quá.
YogiVIThiền sư, con cũng từ từ, sẽ rõ thôi.
YogiVIDạ, con cũng muốn hỏi về cái thiền đi ấy, thì con có thói quen là thiền đi là con hay, ờ, giữ hai cái tay lại với nhau ấy, cố định hai cái tay lại.
InterpreterVIGiữ, giữ phía trước bụng hả, hay là giữ phía sau lưng?
InterpreterENShe has a habit of holding her hand behind when she does the walking meditation. That's okay hả?
TeacherENWhat?
InterpreterENHolding the hand behind.
TeacherENYes.
TeacherENIf you know, if you know, okay.
YogiVIThì lại có một người nhắc con là phải thả lỏng tay ra.
InterpreterVIÀ, xong.
YogiVICon cũng tập thả lỏng tay ra thì con lại thấy.
InterpreterVIThấy không, không thích.
InterpreterENSomebody told me that, just relax, don't, don't hold your hand, but I don't feel very comfortable.
TeacherENYeah, whatever. Your habit, any, your natural, your natural posture is okay.
TeacherENWhich posture is more relaxed for you, then you choose the relaxed way?
InterpreterENShould I walk slowly or walk normally? How to walk?
TeacherENYeah, normally better.
TeacherENBecause you walking outside the daily life, you never walk slowly.
TeacherENWhen you go out, you go back to the being, and then you run.
TeacherENSo make it habit to be natural, natural action is the best way.
TeacherENHold down, so stop, don't slow, don't fast.
TeacherENNormal speed.
TeacherENIf you slow down, also you are controlling. If you fast, also you use a lot of energy, controlling. So better to be practice Vipassanā is not controlling. Let the natural process is the best.
TeacherENWe want to understanding natural, nature as it is, then acting at like a natural is better.
TeacherENSome people, they use slow down and they try to aware every step. This is a very tight end. You cannot do like this the whole day. So as much as you can know the natural way, or one object, two objects is enough. But important is every step, try to be aware. If your awareness becomes stitched together, your body, then you can, the mind can see slowly, the mind can know many objects coming.
TeacherENSo natural process is better.
YogiVICon, con hỏi nốt một ý nữa là, ờ, sư cũng bảo là trước khi hành thiền cần phải check xem là cái tâm và cái thân của mình đã thư giãn chưa, mà nhất là khi quán thân thì làm thế nào là biết là cái thân với cái tâm mình nó đã thư giãn rồi.
InterpreterVINgài nói tâm không, chứ ngài không nói thân, thì cái tâm thư giãn là cái thân nó thư giãn. Làm sao mà biết cái tâm mình thư giãn hả?
InterpreterENUh, sư wonder, Sayadaw, can explain what does that mean, relax the mind when you do the walking meditation or whatever you do?
TeacherENNo hurry.
TeacherENRelax means is relax the craving. Whatever people, they doing hurry, hurry, hurry. So when you have hurry, then eagerness come, awareness gone.
TeacherENDifficult to practice.
TeacherENRelax, not relax effort.
TeacherENRelax the craving, not relax for effort.
TeacherENBut people relax too much, use energy too much. They have no limit. They try too hard, like they too soft, so then the mind not balance.
TeacherENRelax means is relax the eagerness.
TeacherENEffort means is awareness, being aware next, aware next, aware, try to aware continuously is effort.
YogiVIThầy ơi, con muốn là kiểm tra nó như thế nào để biết được.
InterpreterVIBiết được cái gì?
YogiVIMình đang bị căng thẳng.
InterpreterVIKhi nào thành, thành, thiền sư nãy nói là mình cứ thư giãn, thoải mái, đừng hối hả, đừng cái gì, đừng làm hấp tấp, thì cái đó là thư giãn đó, ví dụ mình ngồi mình căng quá, cái vai mình thư giãn, thả lỏng, không biết làm à, hả?
YogiVITức là khi mà mình gồng lên.
InterpreterVIƠ, thì sao?
YogiVIThì là, là mình mới.
InterpreterVIỪ.
YogiVIMẹ kiểm tra cho mình.
TeacherENBecause of people, they use a lot of energy. That's why I try to tell them to check.
YogiVIDạ, con bạch ngài và sư, là, à, trong lúc con hành thiền á, thì, à, con quan sát, con quan sát tâm và thân của mình, thì, à, con, cái lúc mà con ngồi thiền một hồi lâu á, thì con cảm thấy như là công việc tách ra giữa thân và tâm, ngồi quan sát.
InterpreterVIỜ, cái thân với tâm nó tách ra hả?
InterpreterENShe sees the separation of the body and mind, Sayadaw, when she does the sitting meditation.
TeacherENWhat?
InterpreterENThe separation, body and mind. Ah, body, yeah, the her body and mind.
InterpreterVICái, cái thân nó tách ra hả?
YogiVIDạ không, ở giữa thân và tâm.
TeacherENSeparation. Separation giữa thân
YogiVIvà tâm.
TeacherENAlready separate.
InterpreterENLike she, uh, in the middle, and what, she sees her mind and sees her body.
TeacherENYes. So body sensation is body sensation. Mental process is mental process. Already separate.
InterpreterENNo, she, she means, uh, when the pain arrives on my leg, I notice the pain there, but also the, my mind, at the same time, simultaneously the mind is thinking.
TeacherENYes. Then you notice the thinking, also you notice the sensation also, right?
InterpreterENYes.
TeacherENThat's good. Okay.
InterpreterENYeah, where I see the time, time pass by very quick, and the upper part of the body is very light.
TeacherENOkay.
YogiVIVà lúc đó là chỉ thấy cái, cái cảm giác đau của chân thôi, và cái đó thì phiền não lại không tới nữa rồi, là lúc đó.
InterpreterVILà không có phản ứng hả?
InterpreterENThe pain arrives, but the mind don't react at that time.
TeacherENOkay.
TeacherENThen continue aware the pain.
TeacherENWhat happening, the pain increase or decrease?
TeacherENAnd at that time you can check the pain and knowing or awareness is the same or different.
TeacherENObject and knowing mind.
TeacherENIf your awareness, wisdom is increasing, you can feel there's a different nature, two nature.
TeacherENIf your wisdom not strong enough, then you can feel pain and knowing mixed together. If your wisdom slowly clear, then he can see clearly the object, pain and knowing is separately.
YogiVIDạ con thấy vậy đó, rồi con biết là con thiền đúng hay không, thưa thầy.
InterpreterVIĐược rồi. À, mô Phật.
YogiVITiếp tục hành giả.
InterpreterVIÀ.
YogiVINgài dạy về Quán Tứ Niệm Xứ.
InterpreterVIDạ được, Quán Tứ Niệm Xứ rồi làm sao?
YogiVIThì trong, trong kinh thì có nói là quán thân trên thân, rồi thân trên nội thân, thân trên ngoại thân, rồi xin giải thích.
InterpreterVIỜ, mà, mà
InterpreterENI read in the Satipatthana Sutta that they talking about watching the body in the body, the mind in the mind. Please explain what does that mean.
TeacherENWhat?
InterpreterENBody in the body, mind in the mind.
TeacherENOh, body sensation and mind process.
InterpreterENYeah. Body sensation and mind process. Uh, no, she said that body in the, in Satipatthana, body in the body and mind in the mind.
InterpreterENUm, some say that body in the body, that means watching the body as things changing all the time, not permanent.
TeacherENYes.
InterpreterENThat's the Sayadaw, what he's saying.
TeacherENOkay. Okay. So you don't try to see the changing and impermanent. First, you need to aware what's happening now, as much as you can, no? Don't try to see the changing. When your awareness better and better, then you can see the changing.
InterpreterENUh, he didn't mention Sayadaw, but in, in, in the text, Satipatthana, they say that.
TeacherENBody in the body, I don't know.
InterpreterENYou don't know.
TeacherENMind in the mind is, body and mind is, body is the sensation and mind activity.
TeacherENSo important thing is, uh, only two things you can aware, right? Bodily sensation and the mind process.
YogiVIOkay.
InterpreterVIYes. Đây là có một sư cô đó hỏi là quý vị đưa giùm cái bích.
YogiVIChuyện thiền gì vậy?
InterpreterVIĐể khi nào rảnh sư đưa cho cái tài liệu đó cho coi. Dịch cái chữ quán thân, quán thân trên thân, quán thân trên thân, chữ trên thôi là không đúng.
YogiVIQuán thân trên thân, quán thân trên thân.
InterpreterVIDạ. Nói chữ trên là không đúng, không phải.
YogiVIDạ con bạch ngài và sư. Ừm, cho con hỏi là, con ngồi thiền mà nó yên á, nó không có ngủ gật, không gật tới gật lui nhưng mà nó đã ngủ trong tâm, thì lúc con nghe sư Chánh Kiến dẫn thiền đến gần á, tự nhiên sư nói một cái, cái con giật mình, nhưng mà bữa giờ con đã yên có 3 lần rồi.
InterpreterVIỜ, sư cô ngồi mà bên ngoài này không ngủ hả, ngồi rất là thẳng hả, mà trong nó khò nào không hay ha.
YogiVITrong đó, trong đó.
InterpreterVIDạ, trong đó ngủ rồi, thành ra khi nào ai tới gần họ nói cái gì cái mình giật mình.
YogiENDạ.
InterpreterENShe said that she sits, she's very calm, she don't sleep, she don't fall this way that way, but inside is sleepy, so somebody come near and say something, she check it.
TeacherENSo this is, uh, mind is becoming sleepiness.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENSo you can use as object also you can aware, right?
InterpreterENI cannot be aware very clearly. I don't know, I don't, I can be aware very—
TeacherENYou can know, right?
InterpreterENShe's very cloudy, very, very cloudy, very, not very clear at all. At that time when she sits there and the mind is very sleepy.
TeacherENOh. So you cannot aware then. You can open your eyes and better to be wake up.
InterpreterENWake up. And aware that, um, the different—
TeacherENAny sensation.
InterpreterENAny sensation.
TeacherENYeah.
TeacherENThe chinnamita is sleepiness is very obvious because of the lousy and heavy you can aware. But if you difficult to aware, then better to be open the eye. Then use your physical sensation or obvious sensation, then you can choose.
TeacherENIf you are still sleepy, then standing and practice also can.
InterpreterENNếu mà buồn—
TeacherENMake standing is more effort.
TeacherENAnd also make your awareness better, busy, to hold the whole body, body scan and aware many some object.
TeacherENIf you're still sleepy, go to walk, a meditation, walking meditation.
TeacherENIf still sleepy, and go and sleep.
InterpreterENI don't, I don't sleep normally. I sleep very little at night, but it's sleep inside my mind.
TeacherENSo wake up, then tell your mind, wake up, wake up.
YogiVIDạ, vậy con bạch ngài, cái giữa hôn trầm với thị miên thì con chưa có hiểu.
InterpreterVIHôn trầm, thị miên, chắc một thứ chứ gì nữa, sư không biết dùng nhiều từ tiếng Hán Việt quá, sư không biết là cái gì với cái gì hết trơn.
TeacherENThe sleepiness is because of effort less and wisdom is not enough.
TeacherENSo people, they only know that use the effort to make energy to wake up. But if you wake up, then they less relax again, then sleepy again.
TeacherENBetter way is you use your wisdom.
TeacherENAsking some question about yourself.
TeacherENYou aware at the same time how many objects can you move.
TeacherENAnd then the mind becomes start to working.
YogiVIBắt đầu, bắt đầu nó thích thú, nó bắt đầu nó làm việc trở lại.
TeacherENThen you become wake up.
YogiVIDạ con cảm ơn sư.
InterpreterVIỜ, sư cái chi cho buồn ngủ là sư số một, sư bị lâu lắm rồi sư biết mà.
InterpreterENYesterday, the whole day, my mind thinking a lot, start from when the beginning, when I wake up.
YogiVIVừa mở mắt thức dậy là thấy suy nghĩ, thì cái dòng suy nghĩ nó xuất hiện thì chừng 5, 6 câu, 5, 6 chữ à, ví dụ là một cái, nó giống như là.
InterpreterVINửa chừng hả, nó ngưng nửa chừng hả?
InterpreterENShe said that the thinking doesn't last very long, it's just like a many sentences, just one sentence and stop.
InterpreterENThe thinking can be come along with the khó chịu, sensation, don't feeling very well, suffering, or sometimes a pleasant.
YogiVIRồi có những cảm dòng suy nghĩ chỉ không có nội dung gì hết là rất là bình thường, như vậy thì từ khi con mở mắt thức dậy và con ở trên giường.
InterpreterVISư cô nói là có những dòng suy nghĩ mà không có nội dung, không biết suy nghĩ cái gì hả?
InterpreterENShe then it thought that I'm not so sure what he's thinking about.
TeacherENShe's not. Storyline not important, yes.
YogiVIVà như vậy thì trong hình như là hầu như tất cả các quan nghi, mở mắt thức dậy và bước xuống giường đi và vệ sinh, đánh răng, rửa mặt, đi tắm, và đi ăn, và ngồi thiền, trong cái quá thời thiền cũng như thế.
InterpreterVITâm nó cứ suy nghĩ như vậy nè.
InterpreterENShe said that her mind.
InterpreterENKeep thinking whatever she do during the day.
InterpreterENThe mind keep watching, watching the thinking, the emotion, thinking, feeling, sensation, the mind, then it stop, then cause again, stop and again, again.
TeacherENYes, very good.
InterpreterENToday the some, some thinking then happen again, thinking disappear, so I feel very peaceful.
InterpreterENI watched the state of peaceful night calmness for about half hour and disappear.
InterpreterENAnd when, when, when the peaceful night calmness disappear, I watch the whole body and I a lot of sensation in my body.
InterpreterENShe said that if the pain arise, the pain not just a block, but small, small, smaller one, đau, đau, đau, đau, đau, đau, pain, pain, pain, pain, pain, and then stop.
InterpreterENThen the itching sensation come, and not really one, but small, small, small one, continuously.
InterpreterENShe said that is in her body there is a movement, the, the, this, this part, this part, they move this way and that way in her body.
TeacherENOh, be careful about direction. Just know the movement. If you follow the direction, your body becomes move.
YogiVIChỉ là quan sát, nhìn nó, không có theo nó, chỉ biết là nó, nó có một cái sự di chuyển động.
InterpreterVIThì đó, thì cô, cô, cô cẩn thận đừng có theo nó, ví dụ nó chuyển động bên này cô biết, nó chuyển động bên này cô biết, thì cô đi theo cái movement đó, đi theo cái chuyển động đó đó.
TeacherENDirection is concept.
InterpreterENAnd the sensation appear the whole body at the same time, small, small, small one, the whole body.
YogiVIRồi con cảm thấy rằng là hình như là không có lúc nào mà không có đề mục sẵn để mà cái tâm nó làm việc á, làm việc phải suốt vậy hết á.
InterpreterVILúc nào tức là lúc nào làm việc, tâm nó phải làm việc không nè.
InterpreterENThe object appear all the time, so the mind working all the time, aware.
TeacherENThat's good.
InterpreterVIThầy nói tốt lắm, có sao đâu.
InterpreterENShe said that in one sitting, the sound arise, the eyes open, and she feel very khó chịu.
TeacherENHuh? What?
InterpreterENThe sound, sound come, and the mind automatically the eyes open and look what is that, and she feel very khó chịu.
InterpreterVIMắt nó mở ra hả?
InterpreterENI couldn't close it, it keep a little bit noise open, noise open.
TeacherENThat means is your mind has some idea about don't like the sound.
InterpreterENNot really big noise, small one, people moving or.
TeacherENYeah, whatever. Your duty is every time you hearing, just recognize the hearing is happening.
YogiVIÝ là con muốn nói rằng là hầu như bất cứ lúc nào và bao giờ, dù cho.
TeacherENIf your awareness very good, then you can hear the sound, the mind intention to look, then you look, you can, you can see that this process.
InterpreterENHear the sound and the mind want to look at the open eyes.
TeacherENYeah, you intention to look, then you look, then you can see that this process.
InterpreterENThat's okay.
TeacherENBut suddenly, yeah, that's okay, but suddenly you look at, looking for this is, this is, you lose the awareness.
InterpreterENIt comes with the khó chịu feeling.
TeacherENThat's why, that's why disliking. The mind dislike the sound, that's why khó chịu come.
TeacherENSo next time, if you look like this, if khó chịu, aware the khó chịu first, then come back to the sound.
InterpreterENNot many, many sounds.
TeacherENYeah, any sound, if you disliking, then you can practice with like this.
InterpreterVIÀ, cho dù nó chấm dứt sớm rồi không chứ, nó sớm ngay là tâm cô đã khó chịu rồi, thì phải quan sát cái tâm khó chịu, đơn giản vậy thôi.
InterpreterENThe sound and the khó chịu come and go quickly.
YogiVINhưng mà một thời thì.
TeacherENWhatever, the khó chịu coming is because of the mind not understanding yet. That's why khó chịu come.
TeacherENThis is your weakness.
YogiVIThì một thời thiền đó con mới thấy là liên tục nó vậy, tức là từ đầu mùa, tức là âm thanh xuất hiện thì nó có khó chịu, và âm thanh nó chấm dứt, và khó chịu cũng chấm dứt, nhưng một âm thanh khác và nó xuất hiện và chấm dứt đó là.
InterpreterVIĐó, thì thầy sư nói là hễ mà âm thanh cho dù nhỏ hay lớn mà nó xuất hiện, tâm cô khó chịu, điều này là tâm nó không muốn nè, tâm là dạng tâm sân, tức là thiếu sự hiểu biết á.
TeacherENSo you need to investigate why the mind don't like the sound.
TeacherENOther object the mind not react, right? Only the sound come, the mind reacting.
InterpreterENShe said why this time of meditation, this sitting, I only hear the sound, not all the object.
TeacherENWhat?
InterpreterENShe said that this meditation sitting, the object, the sound, most, most very obvious for me, no, no other object, just the sound, sound, sound keep coming.
TeacherENSo what?
YogiVIThì thường nó có, nó bắt một cặp là âm thanh và khó chịu, âm thanh và khó chịu liên tục như thế đó là.
InterpreterVIThì thì.
TeacherENAware.
YogiVISao khó chịu, sao khó chịu, sao khó chịu?
TeacherENKhó chịu is something wrong.
YogiVIRồi con cảm thấy là mình có thể, mình không, không có thể nào ngưng thiền được một nghỉ ngơi được một chút xíu nữa hả.
InterpreterVITâm nó cứ hay biết hoài đó hả.
YogiVIDạ, làm sao mà nó nghỉ ngơi được.
InterpreterVICho nó khỏe chút hả, cho nó khỏe hả.
InterpreterENShe feel a little bit
InterpreterENtense at all because the mind keeps aware, aware, aware, aware, aware. Why don't stop a little bit for her to rest?
TeacherENYou need to appreciate the awareness. Every time the sound come, you aware, then you, your awareness become better.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENRight?
YogiVIThầy dạy phải làm.
TeacherENMeditation is, we call, we said meditation is a continuation, no?
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENThe sound continues come, then awareness continuously arising, your awareness become better and better.
InterpreterENNhờ, nhờ.
TeacherENSo why your khó chịu?
InterpreterENI'm working all day long. I have to work all day long. Aware, aware, aware, aware. That mean I have to work.
TeacherENYeah, the whole day. We should practice the whole day like this.
TeacherENYou don't want to work aware or you don't want to be aware?
InterpreterENHuh?
TeacherENYou don't want to be aware?
YogiVIDạ, nếu mà.
InterpreterVIKhông ghi nhận làm cho nó khỏe hơn phải không.
InterpreterENI am not aware, I feel better. Relax.
TeacherENGo back.
TeacherENAh, this is something wrong. If your aware become tired, your practice is not right, no?
TeacherENIf your right practice, you are more, more aware, the mind is more calm, more peaceful, more understanding, arising, there should be this, this is your skillful the way to practice.
TeacherENBecause, because awareness is right attitude. The awareness become wholesome quality of mind. So if your wholesome quality of mind increasing, the mind become more happy, more light, more meaningful. The wholesome nature is increasing. So why you said tired? There's something wrong.
InterpreterENShe said that the problem is I have to work. Whatever it happen, I have to be aware.
TeacherENYes, if khó chịu is the mind become reacting, mean is that there's something, you have some idea is not right.
TeacherENSo you need to find out this solution, then next time the sound, every time the sound come, you are not reacting. If you have some wisdom arising about the sound.
TeacherENOtherwise you all the time, every time you hear the sound, then your khó chịu, khó chịu come.
TeacherENSo that's why you need to, this is investigating. If you can watch your mind process, you need to check why the mind is reacting, right? Why the mind is not reacting, right? Now many object, the mind not reacting, no problem. But only this object become reacting. This is something wrong.
TeacherENThat's why we are watching, learning, investigating, then get the wisdom come.
TeacherENPeacefulness is not our goal.
TeacherENOur aim is, meditation aim is understand.
TeacherENHappiness, peacefulness is not our goal. This is a byproduct. Come together.
YogiENDạ, but.
TeacherENWhy the mind peaceful and happy? Because of some understanding come, the mind is not reacting. That's why you become peaceful.
YogiVIDạ, kính bạch sư là cái, cái, cái, cái thời thiền vừa rồi là trong cái thời thiền đó chỉ có nghe âm thanh vậy là xong, rồi trong tất cả thời gian khác thì nó không có, nhưng ý con muốn nói rằng là ngay cả cái trạng thái an lạc đó thì tâm nó cũng ghi nhận, mọi thứ nó cũng không tồn tại.
InterpreterVINgài thiền sư không có nói chi về vấn đề của cô tập hết trơn á, mà ngài thấy là khi nào mà tâm cô khó chịu á thì cô phải kiểm tra, đối tượng nào cũng thành vấn đề, thấy không, thời gian nào mình cũng thành vấn đề, mà khi mà phiền não xuất hiện, khó chịu là tâm sân rồi, thì mình phải kiểm tra, mình kiểm ra lý do tại sao, đó, còn mà ngài nói rằng là nếu như mà cô nói rằng đó, dù, dù xấu, dù tốt là mình cũng phải làm việc hết trơn á, mà đúng ra là khi mình làm việc như vậy thì niệm, định, tuệ nó có, thì cái năng lượng mình nó rất là cao, chứ đâu có phải là nó làm cho mình mệt mỏi, mình than, mình đâu có than nữa, trời ơi, cứ làm hoài á, không có, tốt, tốt, tốt, tốt.
InterpreterENShe keeps saying that I cannot stop in all the time, cannot, cannot rest because the mind aware, aware, aware.
TeacherENYeah, rest mean is, not rest mean is you have no defilement arising. That time your, the mind become get the relax, a rest time.
InterpreterENYeah, all the rest.
TeacherENRest from the defilement. This is real rest. Our mind is all the time diluted and craving and worship all the time happening. That's why the mind not, not, not cannot feed the relax, rest, rest.
InterpreterENSo the rest mean that is a defilement.
TeacherENYeah, no defilement time is rest. So no defilement mean is your wisdom must be pleasant.
TeacherENIf your rest to be aware mean is you stay with the diluted, then all craving will come. All defilement will come. If you rest to be aware.
InterpreterENRest to be aware, yeah.
TeacherENRest to be aware.
YogiVIỜ, tiếp tục, dạ bên đây.
InterpreterVIỒ, sư cô này lỡ rồi, thôi bên này trước đi, rồi tính sau hả.
YogiVIDạ, con bạch thêm nữa thầy sư, con bạch thưa sư Bồ Đề, cho con hỏi là, con bạch ngài Bồ Đề chỉ dạy cho con biết được cách thiền quán thân tứ đại này sau khi tăng xã sẽ như thế nào ạ.
InterpreterVIThân tứ đại này sau khi mà tiêu.
YogiVITăng xã.
InterpreterVIHả?
YogiVITăng xã.
InterpreterVISau khi tăng xã. Tăng xã rồi á thì như thế nào?
YogiVIDạ.
InterpreterVIThiền tử niệm xứ nói gì về cái đó hả?
YogiVIQuán, quán.
InterpreterVIQuán gì về cái đó hả? Tăng xã quán cái gì nữa? Nói sao nói sư nghe chưa kịp.
YogiVIDạ, con bạch sư là, ví dụ như là,
YogiVIcái gì sẽ. Đầu tiên ấy, để mà
YogiVIcách quán chiếu mà sau khi thân này.
InterpreterVIQuán chiếu về sự chết chắc hả?
YogiVIDạ.
InterpreterVIQuán chiếu về sự chết, tăng xã thì sự chết rồi chứ gì nữa, nhưng mà phải đợi mình trước khi mình chết mình mới quán chiếu chứ còn đợi tăng xã xa nữa rồi quán chiếu cái gì? Xin lỗi sư đô đốc, cái giọng hơi tức cười. Phải không? Ý muốn nói là quán chiếu về sự chết phải không?
YogiENDạ vâng.
InterpreterENI'm not sure, sure, what she asked in sadha. She asked in about what we should reflect about the dead, not reflect about when this body already disappear. She's talking about this body disappear, the soul. So with the soul you cannot reflect anything, but before that you can reflect about the dead. At the time that the body disappear.
InterpreterENBody dis-soul.
TeacherENBody never disappear.
InterpreterENNot dis-soul, but that means.
TeacherENSoul.
InterpreterENDie, die, die.
TeacherENDie, soul.
InterpreterENDie, then die or.
InterpreterVINó thì chết thì chết chứ có sao đâu.
TeacherENAfter die, then you can continue practice next life.
YogiVICon bạch ngài Bồ Đề, quán tức nghĩa là sau khi thân tứ đại này mạnh trung ấy ạ, thì sẽ như thế nào ấy ạ?
InterpreterVIỒ, tức là tìm hiểu đó hả? Tìm hiểu rồi coi thử cái quán cái gì, quán là tưởng chánh niệm.
InterpreterENAh, she said that. But please answer me, when this body dies, pass away, what happens?
TeacherENHuh? Oh, very clearly.
TeacherENThis body dies, next, next nama rupa arising.
TeacherENIf you have pleasant moment, also you have a nama rupa nature, right? Continuously happening, passing, rising and passing, rising, passing. Then you die. Also, if you have a craving, then next life will come. Next life will come also with this body and mind is happening. This mean is life. Happening is mean life.
TeacherENEverything is cause and effect. If you have a, still have a cause, the effect will come.
TeacherENIf you know cause, then next life is not coming.
TeacherENThis is a Buddha teaching.
YogiVICon bạch.
InterpreterVIÀ, sư sao?
YogiVICon bạch ngài là, đất nước, đất nước gió lửa thì.
InterpreterVITứ đại nữa.
InterpreterENThe four elements à?
TeacherENWhat?
InterpreterENWhich one? The four elements.
TeacherENOh.
InterpreterENAnattā. Which one did dissolve first, disappear first in the four elements?
TeacherENI don't know.
TeacherENWhatever happening, then you're aware, then come and go, right? That's enough.
TeacherENAnd also I can know four elements is not belong to me.
TeacherENSo talking about practice, not dealing.
YogiVIDạ, con bạch ngài là lúc mà con ngồi thiền ý, thì có một cái tâm gọi là cái tâm biết, nó, nó không phải là cái tâm mình tác ý ra, hoặc là cái dòng suy nghĩ của mình, mà nó tự, tự nó biết mọi thứ xung quanh, và có một cái tâm.
InterpreterVIBiết mọi người xung quanh chứ không phải thân tâm mình hả? Biết mọi người xung quanh hả?
YogiVIMọi thứ.
InterpreterVIMọi thứ xung quanh.
InterpreterENThere's this one mind, when you sit in, there's one mind knowing what happened around her.
TeacherENAround her?
InterpreterENYeah, or in her.
TeacherENOh.
InterpreterENYeah, both. Inside and outside.
TeacherENOh, okay, okay.
InterpreterENThere's another mind know that the mind know inside and outside.
TeacherENOkay, so more attention to the inside.
TeacherENOutside you cannot know directly.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENInside you can feel directly.
InterpreterENShe, she thinks that this knowing is not very deep.
TeacherENWhat do you mean not deep?
InterpreterENOh, beginning? Let me, let me finish.
YogiVICon không nhớ là con bước chân, bước chân bên.
InterpreterVIBên nào trước hả?
InterpreterENShe said that, for example, I walk on my left, left, right, left, left, right, left, sometimes I don't remember which one is first.
TeacherENOh, this is not important, first or second. Every time you.
TeacherENObject and mind to continuously aware is more important.
TeacherENEverybody beginning knowing is not very deep.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENHuh? Aware, aware, aware. Try to cultivate awareness continuously, then the mind slowly, wisdom is growing.
InterpreterENThen.
TeacherENThen knowing.
InterpreterENLater and later your knowing becomes more deeper and deeper.
InterpreterVINgài nói rằng là khởi đầu á, cái sự mà hay biết của hành giả đó, cái sự biết của hành giả đó, nó không có sâu đâu, vì mình mới mà, hãy tiếp tục tập nữa thì từ từ ra mình sẽ biết rất là sâu, chứ không phải lúc đầu mà mình muốn biết là sâu liền.
YogiVIỪm, con, lúc trước là con dùng cái kiến thức mà con đã đọc trong sách mà ngài đưa cho ấy ạ, để con biết là con bây giờ con nên làm gì, một thời gian thì con bị lẫn giữa cái tâm mà, ừm, tâm hướng dẫn là bây giờ mình biết đang làm gì và cái tâm suy nghĩ nó bị, nó bị lẫn vào với nhau, con không phân biệt ra được.
InterpreterVIMà một, một bên là cái theo thiền sư dạy là phải đặt cái câu hỏi tâm mình đang biết cái gì, có vậy không, rồi sư cô nói rằng một bên là cái tâm nó suy nghĩ hả?
YogiVIỪm, một cái là tâm đang suy nghĩ và một cái tâm.
InterpreterVIThì bây giờ cái tâm nó không biết cái gì thì nó biết đang suy nghĩ.
YogiVIMột cái tâm suy nghĩ mà.
InterpreterVIGãi gì nữa, thấy không, một cái tâm nó đang suy nghĩ, mà thiền sư nói hãy đặt cái câu hỏi tâm biết gì thì tâm mình đang suy nghĩ, tâm đang suy nghĩ thôi, có gì đâu.
YogiVIỪm, thì.
InterpreterVIPhải không?
TeacherENTalking about the mind aware, she said that you, she said in the group, should be asked a question, what the mind knowing. But at that time my mind don't know it, my thinking, I said it, aware of that thinking. Yes, you're right. That's why you asking, then you notice the mind is thinking.
TeacherENAsking the question makes your interest in the present moment.
InterpreterENUm, when my mind is tense, I'm aware of tenderness. But in some books say that you have to relax to make your mind less tense.
TeacherENIf you right, if your awareness becomes right, right way, can tension become less, less become relaxed.
TeacherENIf you are practicing this wrong way, tension is double, increasing.
TeacherENOr also the relax is not, become relax is not very important. Important thing is tension, you aware that tension with the mind is not reacting.
InterpreterENOh, yes.
TeacherENAnd also later then you can find out why the mind becomes tense.
InterpreterENYeah.
YogiVIRight.
InterpreterVIThiền sư nói rằng là đó, khi mà cái căng thẳng nó khởi sanh lên đó, mình thư giãn, cái này không quan trọng nè, nhưng mà mình quan sát để mình hỏi tại sao mà tâm nó mình căng thẳng nè, vì lý do gì mà nó căng thẳng, thì lần sau nó sẽ hết căng thẳng, còn đằng này mình nói luôn luôn là căng thẳng, mình thư giãn, thư thản, thư giãn, bữa nào nó căng thẳng nữa, tại vì mình chưa biết lý do mà,
InterpreterVIthành ra khi mà tâm sư cô căng thẳng.
TeacherENYou cannot say immediately should be relaxed.
TeacherENYou can aware of the tension, use as an object. You need to, first you need to scale, how to watch the tension with the equanimity.
TeacherENSo we are watching,
TeacherENnot because of
TeacherENdisappear.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENWe are not trying to see the disappear. We are not trying to see the changing. We are trying to see the process and understand coming.
TeacherENWhat is the tension?
InterpreterENUh, what is tension?
InterpreterVIMình, mình quan sát để mình thấy một cái diễn trình của nó xảy ra, tại vì cái gì mà cái này nó đến, rồi mình có được cái sự hiểu biết.
TeacherENWhy tension coming?
TeacherENWhy did tension go away?
TeacherENYou want to understand, that's why we are watching.
TeacherENSo Buddha teaching like this, whatever happening, you need to know what is happening.
TeacherENWhatever happens, and this disappear, you notice this disappear.
TeacherENAnd later, later, then you continue investigate, why this happening.
TeacherENWhy it is disappear.
TeacherENSo this is a wisdom part. Later and later the mind becomes more, or investigate the process.
YogiVIA Di Đà Phật ạ.
InterpreterVIÀ.
InterpreterENUh, the body pain, and the mind aware of that. Please explain to me, or teach me how to aware that. I know that the mind, the body is pain, but I don't know how to watch the pain yet.
TeacherENOkay. First, you need to think the pain is not belong to you. This becomes nature, conditioning.
TeacherENSo first you need to change your attitude, idea.
TeacherENBecause everybody believing the pain is me, I am pain.
TeacherENSo we need to change this idea first.
TeacherENThe pain is nature, this is a conditioning. Some reason arising, that's why this pain coming.
TeacherENThis pain is not belong to me, huh?
TeacherENAnd aware.
TeacherENAnd aware the pain, then the mind is react. If you don't like the mind as arising, then you aware of the disliking mind first.
TeacherENDon't focus to, if your mind is disliking, then you should not aware the pain.
TeacherENIf your mind disliking and happening, then you watch the pain, the disliking is increasing.
TeacherENThat's why we, that time you are not aware, you should not aware the pain.
TeacherENAware the feeling, huh?
TeacherENAs much as you can.
TeacherENIf the reaction is a sudden thought, then you can come back to be aware of the pain.
TeacherENIf you cannot bear, the mind more, more increase, the aversion increasing, then you should change the posture.
TeacherENAnd practice again, again like this, huh?
TeacherENPractice like this, huh?
InterpreterENUh, I don't see the khó chịu, I just see the pain.
TeacherENIf you're not caught, you can continue aware of the pain.
TeacherENYou can be aware of the pain also, yes.
TeacherENWhen the pain increasing, then the mind becomes obviously, the mind reacting also becomes obvious. That time you watch your reaction.
TeacherENSo if your mind is not reacting, then you use a pain as an object, then to, to continue build up your awareness, samādhi, and wisdom.
TeacherENOkay.
YogiVIDạ, mô Phật. Dạ, con xin được hỏi ạ.
InterpreterVIDạ, mô Phật.
YogiVIỜm, dạ bạch, bạch thiền sư, ờm, nếu mà một người nào đó, ờ, vì một cái lý do nào đó mà họ không thể hành thiền được ạ, và họ, ừm, quay về, ờ, cái sự tu tập trong cuộc sống hàng ngày, ờ, họ phát triển chánh niệm, ờ, và tu tập, ờ, khi sáu căn đối với.
InterpreterVISao mà không hành thiền được mà lại tu tập trong đời sống hàng ngày là sao?
InterpreterENOh, she asks a question sir, about if the person, somebody who cannot practice the sitting meditation but uses it in the daily life, is that okay?
TeacherENYes, okay, sure.
TeacherENSitting is only posture.
TeacherENMeditation is mind work.
TeacherENYou cannot sit, you can walk, you can sit, you can walking, lying down, something, any posture you can continue practice.
TeacherENSitting is only posture.
InterpreterENBecause somebody cannot, cannot do the sitting meditation, so they do that.
TeacherENOkay, no problem. Lying down, walking, standing, any posture, the mind is right attitude and be aware, and then you can practice.
InterpreterENUm, she says that, uh, for, for some time I practiced, I feel my department less and less, so I keep continue to do it, so one day I will realize that the Dhamma.
TeacherENYes.
InterpreterENYeah, you mean.
TeacherENWhen your mind less, less department, then mean is your awareness, samādhi, and wisdom is increasing.
InterpreterENYeah.
TeacherENThis is a progressing, so continue.
YogiVIDạ. Ừm, thưa chưa, con hỏi nữa, thì, ờ, có những cái kinh nghiệm gì để mà mình có thể biết được là mình đã.
InterpreterVIBắt đầu quả.
InterpreterENWow. Uh, she asks is there sign or any experience that show that we are realized Dhamma.
TeacherENYeah, everybody knows.
TeacherENBeside the around you know, everybody know you are changing or not.
TeacherENEven your, uh, feeling, family member, first one, they know you are changing or not.
TeacherENI'm, someone come to report to me, right, he said he is already department less, less, less, but I'm not believing. I asked his family,
TeacherENthen they said no, no, no, no, then.
YogiVIDạ, thưa chưa.
TeacherENBecause I don't know, they know.
InterpreterENDạ, when you have intention to learn, to understand what happened in our body and mind, then we have many lessons to learn.
TeacherENYes, you know, you know how to think, how to act. Your vowel action, mental action, vowel action, your physical action become more right and right, so you are less, less suffering.
YogiVIDạ, thưa chưa, con xin một câu hỏi nữa ạ.
InterpreterVIMột câu sao giờ, giờ 4, 5 câu rồi đó, rồi một câu cuối cùng đi.
InterpreterENHow about people have depression sir for this practice?
TeacherENDepression is a lot of department. They have all the time to cultivate this angry, ang, different is opposite of angry, that, that, that, that anxiety and to angry, so anger is increasing, so this a lot of, uh, unwholesome mind, he all the time thinking about unwholesome mind, that's why your depression is increasing, so you should practice it's wholesome quality, practice, then the mind become more, more wholesome mind come, then depression gone.
TeacherENWhen I'm, I'm 30 years old, I a lot of depression there.
TeacherENThen I start to meditate continuously, then slowly I, I overcome this depression.
TeacherENThis is real life.
TeacherENBecause depression comes because you cannot get what you want.
TeacherENAnd the mind become more, more depressed.
TeacherENSo a lot of craving, then a lot of depression come.
InterpreterENShe also she have a depression sir right.
TeacherENOh, this is very good.
TeacherENThen you should practice very hard.
TeacherENThen you can become more mature, then depression gone.
TeacherENDon't complain, huh, just use.
TeacherENBecause of depression then I practice very hard so.
YogiVIDạ, dạ.
InterpreterVIBạn bè của ngài là chết hết trơn, chết cái bị thương, rồi bị tù, rồi vậy đó.
TeacherENThat's why the people become suffering then they come to practice. They are not suffering, they are not practice.
TeacherENOkay, well, use.
TeacherENUse as a meditation object, huh.
YogiVIDạ, nhưng mà con cũng rất là may mắn bởi vì khi mà con được tiếp xúc với ngài từ, ờ, năm 2000 mấy á, 2010 á, thầy cũng học với ngài, cũng đòi khóa, thì con cũng trải qua rất là nhiều những cái.
InterpreterVICòn bên Shwe Min này học đó hả, học bên này hả?
YogiVIDạ không, con học ở Việt Nam mà.
InterpreterVIHọc Việt Nam.
InterpreterENYeah, she, she, she, she have a contact with your practice, with your teaching, so that help her, yeah.
TeacherENOkay, welcome.
InterpreterENThank you very much, sir.
YogiVISa, sa đủ, sa đủ.
TeacherENEnough, enough.
TeacherENSo continue practice and we can discuss more.
Sayadaw U Tejaniya
Shwe Oo Min Dhamma Sukha Tawya, Yangon

Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…

From the retreat

Shwe Oo Min Online for VN Yogis
Shwe Oo Min, Online · 0 sessions