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Tiếng AnhGood morning. So I've been very— the mind has been very agitated, especially yesterday evening when I was, um, trying to fall asleep and I couldn't. Um, yeah, and I think I got afraid of falling into some kind of weird mindstate and then— yeah, so I did some interventions, like self-compassion and some tapping on the— Yeah.
Tiếng AnhUm, so my— where I'm at is that I'm developing some kind of aversion to being aware, because it makes me feel itchy and it makes me feel, um,
Tiếng Anhthere's constant, like, constant engagement of the mind, constant thought, constant— there's no samādhi, there's nothing, no concentration. Um,
Tiếng Anhso I've been trying to do some śamatā, just, you know, being aware of my breathing, but I don't get beyond 7 or something, 7 breaths, so. Um, yeah, that's where I'm at. ครูมันเน้นย้ํา เอ่อ สิทธิช่วงแรกคือไอ้ลมมาเบียว แล้วก็ตูนแน่ๆ ทุกคนต้อง เอ่อ ทุกคนต้องมีตาปูแรงแน่ๆ โห ตู ช่วงแถบเพลงนี้บ้าอีกแล้วแดะ ทุรุก เอ่อ แน่ๆ ตู เสียงใหญ่เอานะ ตู แล้วแดะ ทุกอย่างแดะ ตู แต่ที่ถามมาแล้ว มันใจฉันตลอดเวลาแดะ ตู หลงวัดตมาดีไม่ย่านอะไร อะไรแดะ เปลี่ยนอะไร เปลี่ยนอะไร แดะ เสกะจะชี้แล้ว เล่าๆ แดะ แดะ
Tiếng Anhเสกะมันจริง เอ่อ น้ําไม่ยาวบ่ โอ้ ธรรมธาเราจริงแดะ แต่มัน อะ แต่ชื่อเรา คนน่ะจริงแน่แหละ โปรดเราเชาตีลมไม่ยาว เอ่อ กู อะ ลบเพียรแน่ๆ แดะ อ๋อ ได้ยินทรง เอ่อ เสกะ เพียรนี่เราเห็นหลักอะไรมาอย่าง ก็ต่างคนต่าง แต่พอเราเห็นหลักเพียรนี่แหละ สภาวะไป เพียรนี่เรา เอ่อ หลักธรรมดีมาก ไม่รู้ตัว แต่ที่ถ่ายยาแด่ แดะ ตู อะ ลุลบเปียว แด่ แดะ อ๋อ ยาแด่ ยาแด่ ลบเปียว แดะ ยาเราไม่รู้ผิดๆ บ่ ผิดได้ได๋ บ่ ผิดเอา ผิดได้ได๋ ถ้าหลักธรรมที่เรามา มามาหรือยัง หรือว่า แต่พอเราเปลี่ยน Yeah, so I was just, well, basically what you need to do is, um, check your attitude
Tiếng Anhand, um, the mind isn't accepting what is happening in the present moment. It doesn't— มันยิ่ง มันยิ่งเรา ไม่ใช่ อย่างนี้เรา แกงโล่งเลย เราเด้งโล่งเลยเรา Because you don't like the feeling
Tiếng Anhof not having the kind of samādhi you had before. You don't like,
Tiếng Anhum, the way the mind is just ordinarily, and you want to get that back. And so that destabilizes the mind
Tiếng Anhbecause of the desire to get something. อืม ผิดได้ได๋ นี่มันยิ่งนะ มันยิ่งรู้ มันยิ่งรู้ตลอด ที่มาลีประคิวนี้แดะ แดะ Even if, you know, there was agitation, and all we did was keep acknowledging the mind is agitated, the mind is agitated, just keep acknowledging the state of mind.
Tiếng AnhContinuously, it stabilizes the mind, actually. แล้ววันนี้พี่เอาโลบีส่วน โลบีส่วน กู มันยิ่งดีแดะ But when the motivation behind doing that is, oh, I'll keep acknowledging that the mind is agitated and it will calm the mind down. When the motivation is to calm the mind down, the mind doesn't calm down. ไม่สิ แต่พอเราพิจารณา เพียบสิ ตู ชอบอะไร So it really has to be a— แต่นี่แหละ แต่นี่แหละ ตีแม่ ตูนน่ะ ลงตัวจริงๆ เอ่อ อย่าง อี มาลีเราจริงเนาะ It really has to be a surrender to the present moment, you know, a surrender ring, and, uh, like, let things be as it is.
Tiếng AnhAnd it's only awareness of what is.
Tiếng AnhOh, resistance, expectation. โลบีส่วน ว่าจ้าง โลบีส่วน เอ่อ โลบีส่วน โลบีโชว์ดีแดะ It's really a lesson in, you know— หนูแนะมันนิดเดียว โลบีเมี่ยวเลยแดะ Seeing how when we do anything with resistance or desire, or with attachment, you know, with expectation, it doesn't work.
Tiếng AnhIt's like quicksand: the more you do, the worse it gets.
Tiếng Anhกูเหรอ กูเฉยๆ เลย Right now, how are you feeling? I feel calm now. อืม กูรู้ๆ นี่หว่า But what I— When do you feel calm now? How do you calm down? Um, I think it has to do too with the environment of being in this interview, and being in a Q&A, and being able to relate.
Tiếng AnhUh-huh. Socially. Well, is everybody feeling enough? แล้วเสกะปูเยอะแยะ หูหมานที่ชิมนู่นเสกะมันเบียวเลยแดะ Oh. So it is, I mean, it is the longest retreat, silent retreat I've ever done, so it's also like a learning experience and being faced with— เสกะบ่ได้สิ อันอรุ
Tiếng Anhอะลุแดะ กู อืม แต่นี่ลิงยิ่งหลาย แท้แดะ นั่นแหละชั่วแดะ แท้แดะ เสกะนั่นแหละชั่วแดะ แดะ แต่มันเลิกแดะ อีหลีแดะ ตูรู้ฉันน่ะ ลุลมไม่ย่างอีกดะ แต่มันเลิกแดะ แท้แดะ It might be helpful to know that, you know, the longer we stay silent, the more stuff comes out of the mind, the more we see that comes out of the mind.
Tiếng AnhSo, um, that can happen on
Tiếng Anhlonger retreats, or just when we are more silent, you know, we see more agitation that has been buried because we've been busy. อืม อีหลีแดะ นี่ agitation อารมณ์เพียบอยู่ใน แต่พอถามไน่เราอยาก He says, um— อะไรๆ จะรู้แล้วเว้ย ไอ้เมื่อก่อนน่ะ ถามสามู อารมณ์เพียบอยู่ในหม้อ อะไรด้วยจะรู้เลย The important skill that we're trying to learn, um, through the process is learning to objectively be with agitation, where the agitation is an experience and the observer is not so much influenced by the agitation.
Tiếng Anhเนาะ ทุกขาดูมัธะ ไอ้เราเพียกออกนอกมาโลแดะ กูๆ จังยาวออกนอกมาโลแดะ ว่าเราคิดถึงเพียกเราคิดไปสิ เราแต่พอถามอีหมะ อยู่ๆ นี่มามาลีโลแม่ทรงอยู่ดะ แปลงตลาดไน่ So remember, Sayadaw says, whenever you're working at something and it doesn't seem to work, always check your attitude: is the mind trying to do something?
Tiếng AnhIs the mind trying to get something? What does the mind want? Um, is it not liking what's happening? Is it trying to— does it have some subtle idea that it's— that there's something better, or that there's something that it thinks should happen? Um, and then recognizing that, sometimes just the recognition of it, um, brings relief, you know, drops that wrong attitude.
Tiếng AnhSometimes you just have to keep recognizing the wrong attitude. แต่เวลาไอ้เมื่อก่อนนี่ไอ้ชินี่ เมียว ตัวนี่ resistance ชินี่ ไอ้สิ่งนี้ เก้าชินนี้ อะไรชินชินอยู่ แล้วมันขันไหน Subtly, um, the automatic mind rejects unpleasant experiences, or what it judges to be unpleasant. You know? Yeah. So we need to recognize the mind is rejecting.
Tiếng AnhYeah, that is certainly happening. And I see a lot of doubts coming up, um, and maybe some thing I wanted— เดี๋ยวๆ มันยังไม่ถึงกับ doubt อยู่ไหม เฟรนดี้ I wanted to ask about is, um,
Tiếng Anhthe fact of, or this creating positive emotions, or— so what I've been observing is when I smile and do walking meditation, everything seems a little more bearable.
Tiếng AnhAnd— ถ้าลุยยากจะรู้ เออ คนละคนเลย ขันไหนลุยยากจะรู้แดะ แดะ นี่ๆ ถ่ายบูซูเหรอ บูซู And so something else is, Sayadaw says, um, in the book, um, we should be happy about
Tiếng Anhknowing and, you know, being able to be aware and being able to know, which is maybe also some kind of, like, giving us a certain spin on the mind. And so my question is, shouldn't, like, like this seems to be in contrast to the fact of not creating, or that creation is always greed.
Tiếng AnhRight, right. So my question. Should we try to
Tiếng Anhmake ourselves happy in a wholesome way? You know, if it's— if the alternatives is between smiling and not smiling, then, and smiling makes me feel better, shouldn't I smile? So you think we should create or we should not? We should. I think we should. Okay. มาลุกแดะ ไอ้เพียบยาวแดะ แดะ โห แต่ที่ตะกี้กูเจ๊ซู เอ่อ อะ พริชชี่แล้วเหรอ เอ่อ ตีมะบิวอะแม่ สุราดา ก้าวหน้า เอ่อ ตีมะบิว แด่ เลิศ แต่บ่ สุราด ถ้าเรากู ก้าวหน้านี่มันก้าวหน้าอยู่เอ๋ย อย่าชิ่ง ก้าวหน้าอยู่เอ๋ยๆ ตัวอ้างแหมะ มาแล้ว เอามาเบี้ยวหน้านี่มันเบี้ยวหน้า เบี้ยวหน้า กู กู ขั้นซ้ายแล้ว บ่ ก้าวหน้า ก้าวหน้า อารมณ์ผิวไหน บ่ ก้าวหน้าเว้ย He says, if we are able to choose
Tiếng Anhthe positive, then choose the positive. If we are able to— sometimes the mind is not able to. ทําไม When we are able to ถ้าทราบไป คนไหนจริงๆ แล้วนะ หนูจะ ก้าวหน้าเลย อารมณ์มันก้าวหน้าเลย อารมณ์ไง Yeah. แต่พอถามไน่เนาะ ตีมะยิ้มจริงๆ เลย Yeah. But the ultimate lesson is when the mind is equanimous, that good and bad are equal, that they are just being known.
Tiếng AnhThat's a level up. Understandingly. That's another level of understanding, where the mind
Tiếng Anhsees things for what they are, and what they are is
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