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Thiền sư U Tejaniya · 1 giờ 18 phút
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Tiếng AnhSayadaw, I shall just share, um, I shall just report my practice, and hopefully Sayadaw can tell me if I'm doing it correctly or not. Okay. Um,
Tiếng Anhlately I've been, um, familiarizing myself with awareness. Because all the time I thought, uh, I know awareness. And lately I have kind of find a difference in the, uh, observing of awareness. What do you mean, different awareness? Because I always thought that awareness means I do the awareness.
Tiếng AnhOh, okay. And now I realize that awareness is actually just aware the mind activities and all that. So I realize, ah, so that is awareness. Yeah. Okay. Awareness become better. Yes. And, um, I realize that, um— No need to try too much. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. So what happens is I notice two situations every day in my practice.
Tiếng AnhIf I am in the experience, I'm not aware. Because I'm in the experience. Yeah, definitely that is not awareness. Right. Yeah. And when I am, um,
Tiếng Anhaware of the mind activities, I know that is awareness. Right. So usually little awareness only. Okay. Yeah. But I'm practicing to recognize the awareness. So you need to only checking that your awareness is present or not. Yes. That's enough. Yeah. If your awareness is present, the mind knows already the experience. Yes. Right.
Tiếng AnhOkay. Um, my challenge is, um— Because long time meditator is, they know, they already understand a lot. The mind understand already that. So you need to do is, awareness present or not. If awareness is present, the mind automatic know the experience already. Because of their long time experience, long time understanding, it's collect already.
Tiếng AnhA little bit practice, then they come back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes when I realize that I'm in the experience, if I catch the thought, I'm able to stop and realize that— What did the mind and you doing? I'm rolling with the thought. That means I'm just playing with the stories in my mind. Then I know that awareness gone and I stop.
Tiếng AnhSo my question is, when I do that, am I interfering with the mind activity? When you are what? Doing something. Or when I'm meditating. Sometimes I try to meditate through the mind door. Just now you said you are in the experience, mean what? When I am, when I'm meditating— Awareness there. Uh-huh. Awareness know the experience, but you don't know the awareness present.
Tiếng AnhYes. Oh. So? So when I am able to stop, so I'm able to check, oh, so the mind has gone into the story. I can— Catch the thoughts in the. Follow the thoughts. Yes. So then you stop what? I, I— Stop thinking. Yes. So I'm wondering whether is that, um, interfering with the mind activity.
Tiếng AnhNo, no, no, no, no, no. No. This is, you should do this because you are interfere the thoughts. You need to back up. Uh-huh. Right? Okay, okay. If you allow this happening, then you lost all the time. Yes. Right? Yes, I notice that. That's why we need to bring back to the awareness. Okay. So when I want— That is not interfere. This is what you should do. Okay.
Tiếng AnhAll right. So if I were to, uh, I use my sensing the body to bring the thought back. Yes. Yes. Yes. Easy, easy way to do the body sensation is ground it. Okay. Thank you. Then check the awareness. Okay. Uh, yes. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Um,
Tiếng Anhso sometimes I have gone into the story for too long, and I've, I'm in the experience for a long time. That means already gone through the story line, everything. And I try to find awareness, and find that very hard to find awareness. Just reminding, are you aware or not? Yeah.
Tiếng AnhBut then the, the, the, the, the, the, the sense felt like that. You need to remind yourself, are you aware or are you thinking? Okay. Right? Reminding, then you wake up. Reminding come, awareness come. Automatic.
Tiếng AnhAre you aware or are you thinking? Sometimes I— If you are aware, the mind cannot think too much. Okay. If you are thinking, you are not aware. How do I sense that difference of the thinking? Huh? You can know the awareness and thinking. Thinking become object. Awareness, mind is aware the thinking. Then your awareness there.
Tiếng AnhBut you, there is a thinking, but you are not aware. So then you are lost. Yeah. I find that sometimes when I do that, I say, oh, I'm in delusion. You do what? Is, I mean, when I, uh, when I stop myself and say, uh, whether I'm, I'm aware or not. Yeah. Check. When I check, okay. Check. When I check and see, is this, uh, is— Check is awareness come back.
Tiếng AnhUh-huh. Already. I like checking. Okay. Checking all the times yourself. Even if I feel that it was like an intellectually— Checking, reminding, remembering. That's enough. Okay. So when I do that, uh, when I do that, it feels like very intellectually, like I plonk in like that. That means that I just, I say, am I aware?
Tiếng AnhIt's like not real. It's just like, like doing awareness like that. It's like, am I aware? If you know the awareness is present, you can recognize awareness present. That is very sure. Okay. If you, someone can aw, you, he where he can aware the awareness, very sure. Awareness, you know very well about in present moment.
Tiếng AnhIf you're not aware, also very obvious you are not aware. Totally. Very obvious. Okay? Yeah. Another way I try to, uh, recognize awareness is I go back to basic awareness, like seeing is happening, hearing is happening, touching is happening. Some, some awareness is not very good enough.
Tiếng AnhYou can start with some object to ground it and make awareness growing. Yeah. Just go back to basic. Yes. Okay. Okay. Depend on your awareness quality. Awareness is good, no, no need. Just watch, take care of the awareness only. Right. Thank you, Sayadaw. Sayadaw, um, I would like to ask you, um, if, uh, the way I'm comparing my mindfulness is correct, or should I just let it be?
Tiếng AnhI notice that there's a difference when I sit and do sitting meditation and when I do walking meditation. When I do walking meditation, the questions come naturally. So when I'm doing,
Tiếng Anhand, and I ask, what is the mind doing?
Tiếng AnhThe mind seems to be very wide. It's nowhere. And I can see seeing happening, hearing happening. Then suddenly there's a looking. Ah, pleasant object. But no attachment. So continue to, to move. The mind is nowhere.
Tiếng AnhOkay. That's good. That's already good. Okay. But when I sit, the questions somehow come out differently. Somehow? Different question. Ah. Yes. Depend on your wisdom, the question can come.
Tiếng AnhSo. The question is, no, you are not try to ask. Naturally, the relative them come. That means the mind interest already. Okay. But I notice that when I sit down, very easy to follow the thoughts. Follow the thoughts. Yes. So the minute follow the thoughts happen, the question, the body will ground itself.
Tiếng AnhThere is awareness, but there seem to be a bit of focusing. Why you easy to follow the thought? Do you are not understanding that thought is object? Yeah. So at that moment I see, ah, thinking happening. So means your attention is, your, the mind not understanding that thought is object. That easy to involve. Or your interest to the storyline also easy, easy to involve.
Tiếng AnhYeah. So you need to check every time you aware your thoughts, you check, do you understanding thought is object. Thinking mind, right? Yes. We need to understanding the mind. Not thinking. Yes. Thinking, thinking mean is story, right? Yes. Thinking mind. Yes. We need to interest about the mind.
Tiếng AnhThe mind, the nature of the mind is function of thinking also mind. Huh? Yes. Do you clear function of the thinking? That also quality of mind. Yes. And knowing quality of the, function of the knowing, function of the thinking is also mind. No? If you more understanding the mind, you know this object and it's appear or disappear.
Tiếng AnhVery clear. Okay. Okay? So every time you are checking your thoughts, what the mind is pay attention. Nature or concept. Nature or concept. That's very clearly, oh, the mind is attention to the concept and to come back to the. Then you understanding that what is the concept, what is the nature. Then you not cop the thought.
Tiếng AnhOkay. Okay? Yeah. Okay. So I think I know what's object. In fact, I know what's object. So I then, ah, thinking mind is happening. Then there's awareness. Yes. Okay? When there's awareness, then the, I observe the quality of the mind at that point. Okay. The quality of the mind is very still.
Tiếng AnhYes. But there's no questioning anymore. Okay. So I just. Let it be. Stay with, let it be. Let it be. Because your nature is, if your mind become interest, naturally let the question come. Okay. I, I no need to think too much because you, your mind is, your nature is already interest. Okay.
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