Q&ALing Shan Temple Retreat26 Apr 2018
Group 08 — Momentum of Awareness and Knowing the Meditating Mind
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 2 hr 43 min
Original audio: English · Chinese interpretation
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In this group interview, the teacher addresses recognizing the knowing mind and easing tension caused by excessive effort. He clarifies the distinction between concentration meditation and Vipassanā, guiding yogis to observe the state of mind rather than fixating on objects or concepts.
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- 111 hr 27 minGroup 05 — Working with Images, Pain, and the Unstable Mind25 Apr 2018
- 122 hr 1 minGroup 06 — Maintaining Awareness at Six Sense Doors and Right View25 Apr 2018
- 139 minQ&A 06 — Practicing with Right View in Walking Meditation25 Apr 2018
- 141 hr 59 minGroup 07 — Pain as Dhamma and Dealing with Emotions26 Apr 2018
- Viewing152 hr 44 minGroup 08 — Momentum of Awareness and Knowing the Meditating Mind26 Apr 2018
- 169 minQ&A 07 — Observing Discomfort and Understanding Dukkha26 Apr 2018
- 171 hr 13 minGroup 09 — Checking the Attitude and Accepting with Wisdom27 Apr 2018
- 181 hr 53 minGroup 10 — Dealing with Sleepiness and Natural Awareness27 Apr 2018
- 1912 minQ&A 08 — Right Reflection and Understanding Dukkha27 Apr 2018
- 201 hr 54 minGroup 11 — Recognizing Nature and Thoughts Instead of Concepts28 Apr 2018
Transcript
English
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
English
Only 7? Oh, and she's on the— Second line also. Second line also, huh.
ZH
啊？ 呃，像禅师报告？ 对。
ZH
禅——那个，禅坐的那个过程。昨天下——昨天晚上那个小餐之后我下去，然后那个其实只有半个钟头的禅坐。那因为我一段时间已经不太敢专注，那普通那时间我是精行，那昨天是选择坐禅。但是因为我刚开始也是用那个比较放松的方式，但是那个时候心里起了一个念头，想专注，结果一专注，那个我那个整个——整个那个专注力好像都往这个地方跑。那个眼睛啊，头部整个都不太舒服。啊，因为不舒服，我还是在想说是不是我应该在观照说是什么原因让我这个样子。那我在观照下去的时候，我发现说我不能这么做了。因为我回到寮房之后，我发觉不需要打呼声，不需要什么杂音，我的睡——睡眠的状况就变比较差了。
ZH
不需要什么？
ZH
不需要人家的打呼声，或者是吼啧啧什么都不用，就——就好像你就好像很亢奋，比较没办法像平常那样子容易入眠。那今天，今天下午的时候，那种状况又起来了。那起来之后，呃，正好下午有发生一点事情，我就感——感觉到说我好像从——从以往我就是都觉得自己做什么事都不好，都做不好。啊，所以说有一种那个好像我，我比较低，人家比较高，那个那种心态在里面。结果这一次我在静坐的时候，它情况出现，这一种念头起来的时候，欸，好像有起一个作用。它那个，它这个地方的那个颈部突然变松了。啊，因为智慧不够，我只能看到这个部分，它松了，就是好像我们在观照的时候，它自然就松了。
ZH
你观照什么到那个时候？ 欸，我就是观照到说我那种慢——慢心。 哦，OK，OK。 就你在观照慢心的时候，你觉得这边松了？
ZH
对，那个身体的感觉，尤其是这个——这个部分，好像突然间松了。啊，我只——只能观照这部分而已。啊，其他它让我感觉就是说有降下来的感觉了，这样子。感觉就是说它那个气有没有，哦，本来都往头部窜，哦，因为它往脚部窜，我都是觉得很舒服的。但是它往头部窜的时候，就会影响到我那个眼睛啊，好像眼压什么，脑压什么都胀起来了，都下不来，这样。这个是——这个是我暂时禅坐的部分先暂时报告到这里。好。 Okay,
English
Sayadaw. Last night in one sitting, she tried to use the old way of meditating, a little bit more concentration. Then immediately she had very pressure, tight, you know, tension and all that. And then she tried—she's curious about why.
English
That's why she let it happen. But then after half hour, she went back to her Kuthi. The mind very agitate. She couldn't sleep well. And then this today, in one sitting, she again, you know, same thing happened. Also some thoughts coming about
English
self-criticizing. She has a habit of putting down herself. Oh. Comparing with others. I'm not good. Right, right, right. So she was trying to aware that putting down. Then she noticed that what happened is the pressure here relieved. So physically it's not tight, the tension relieved.
English
And then she—she says she doesn't understand why, but all she—she's aware it's like this when she's noting the—the manna. Things or something happened here.
English
Because of defilement. Any tension is come some defilement is make body mind tense, body tense.
ZH
禅师说就是——就是头部有压力啊，有绷紧的感觉。啊，就是身心有紧张，都是因为有这个染，就是有染的心，就是有——有烦恼这样。啊。
English
And also if you over energy. Because not necessarily if you overuse the energy, also this is also diluted.
English
That's why tension comes.
ZH
有时候我们过力，过分的用力，也会导致这个绷紧。那—— Because not necessarily energy.
English
You try too much, so the body also becomes tense.
ZH
有时候不需要用那么大的力气，但是我们身心都在用力，所以就会——就会这样。
ZH
其实我来的这几天，我一直用师——用禅师的方式，所以其实我前面那几天我是很快乐的。真的是，包括静坐也觉得很轻松。那种轻松不是散——散乱心的轻松，那个心都保持在蛮——蛮平静的一个状态。那只是说它突然间出现，那我觉得说这个是很好的机会，让我去看一下我到底发生什么事。那我其实感觉那——那看到那个点，我还会再继续看下去，但是觉得还是——对我还是有点有帮助的。 好。
English
She says she's trying to practice what you're teaching
English
for the last few days. It's just last night this thing come up. She want to—she observed she let it happen because she want to learn from it. Yeah, okay. Not because she's wanted to push herself. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. But whatever. And then you need to know what is—if you're wrong, you need to know that it's wrong. Yeah.
ZH
禅师说如果我们做错了，我们需要知道，学习，就知道我们做错了。
ZH
因为以前行禅的时候，就习惯是走步、右步、走步、右步。那现在为了要突破这样的一个限制，学习禅师所教的全面性的观照，所以现在行禅的时候就比较会东看西看，然后那天看了一些问题，这两天就是尽量的去找答案。结果我在这个东看西看的时候，还是在看，为什么说看到红色的，眼睛会特别用力，今天好像有一点明白。
English
So she said she used to do right step, left step, and now she's doing open her sixth sense door. So when she walk, she tried to aware seeing. And then she said when she—the eye sees red color,
English
it's more putting more attention to red color. More obvious. The mind more attracted to that. Or maybe she said she know why today. She investigate and then she seem to find out why. Okay.
ZH
今天的一点明白就是说，因为那个绿色，它比较柔和，而且比较多。那红色它是比较少的。那绿色我们是很习惯的，就像我也是，我的寺院是在乡下，整天都是看绿色的。那红色的，它的那个颜色比较鲜艳，所以当我们看绿色，看一片的时候，再过来转换，视觉转换，看到红色的时候，自然的它，因为它不是熟悉中的记忆，它自然会比较的用力去看它。我不知道是对还是错，但这是我所发现的一个明白。
English
So she said because she—because it's too common for green color.
English
Green color so much things outside are green. So right color is where and it's more attractive and it's sharp. So that's why, you know, she's put— The mind more notice. Yeah.
ZH
然后又在我下午在左看右看，东看西看的时候，突然间我看到那个有一棵树，它被砍了，砍了去掉很多。我第一个——第一个念头，我不知道当下是不是有觉知还没有觉知，我是带着觉知去看。突然间我一抬头看到的时候，我第一个念头就， 啊，那是干嘛？坐在那里等他，等球在那里。我说我听不懂。我说因为我在看的时候，抬起头来看到一棵树，它突然间就是一个念头说，好可怜哦，它怎么被砍得这样子断手断脚的。
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…