Q&ALing Shan Temple Retreat27 Apr 2018
Group 10 — Dealing with Sleepiness and Natural Awareness
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 53 min
Original audio: English · Chinese interpretation
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This group interview clarifies how to overcome sleepiness using wisdom and questions rather than mere willpower. The teacher guides yogis on recognizing feelings, handling fear and bodily pain, and maintaining natural awareness at the six sense doors during daily activities.
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Ling Shan Temple Retreat · 25 talks
- 141 hr 59 minGroup 07 — Pain as Dhamma and Dealing with Emotions26 Apr 2018
- 152 hr 44 minGroup 08 — Momentum of Awareness and Knowing the Meditating Mind26 Apr 2018
- 169 minQ&A 07 — Observing Discomfort and Understanding Dukkha26 Apr 2018
- 171 hr 13 minGroup 09 — Checking the Attitude and Accepting with Wisdom27 Apr 2018
- Viewing181 hr 53 minGroup 10 — Dealing with Sleepiness and Natural Awareness27 Apr 2018
- 1912 minQ&A 08 — Right Reflection and Understanding Dukkha27 Apr 2018
- 201 hr 54 minGroup 11 — Recognizing Nature and Thoughts Instead of Concepts28 Apr 2018
- 212 hr 16 minGroup 12 — Working with Pain, the State of Mind, and the Sense of Self28 Apr 2018
- 2211 minQ&A 09 — Using Wisdom and Working with Anger28 Apr 2018
- 231 hr 51 minGroup 13 — Watching the Mind Reaction and Working with the Mind Door29 Apr 2018
Transcript
ZH
禅师好，翻译居士好。我今天想就是报告一些就是我坐禅的一些，有一些障碍，那想在这边就请禅师可以怎么样的引导。那就是禅师每天都会就带引导我们那个禅坐，那有几次几次的经验，禅师在引导的时候，有时候蛮就说可以进入那个状况，觉得心整个就很稳定下来。那整个过程有去记禅师的一些引导我们的一些程序这样。那之后我知道禅师会就离开，那离开接着就让我们自己坐禅。那我几次的状况就是在禅师走的时候，有时候我早上因为或许比较热，或许下午也是，就会容易就昏沉了。禅师走了，然后我就有一点就是昏沉的那一种状况会比较就是会就会出现这样。那想因为听到禅师说昏沉的话，可以用睁开眼睛来克服，来能不能这个昏沉可以那个去除这样。那我就试着试着就睁眼睛。那我睁了眼睛之后，我看到的眼前我是我现在想要知道说禅师不晓得睁着眼睛这个过程，因为只知道说睁着眼睛。那我睁着眼睛我看到的前面就是墙壁，然后几个桌子，那我就觉知就是是不是就觉知那一个我眼前的一个目标所缘这样。但是我发现我觉知不久，那个眼垂眼皮更容易垂，垂得更快，就是那个昏沉就一直还是没有没办法克服。那想说在这边请问禅师，他在市场做生意的时候，他每天都睁着眼睛禅修，是怎么样的一个方法？
ZH
首先你睁着眼睛的时候，你是觉知眼睛看到的东西，还是觉知眼睛在看？就是说你刚才讲你觉知是眼睛看见了一些桌子吗？你是觉知什么东西？你是觉知看到的东西？ 对对，所缘这样。这样对不对？ So
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during guided meditation, when you are there, she does it well, you know, she can follow the guideline. Once you leave, then she starts feeling sleepy.
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I have energy, I think.
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So she remembers that she can open the eye. So when she opens the eye, she saw the furniture in front of her, right? You know, she sees the fixtures. And then when she is aware of the objects of what the eye can see, after a while she feels even more sleepy because she can't open her eye.
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So she's asking you, how do you practice
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when you are doing business? When you do business, you are opening your eye and then you are also meditating. How to be mindful of seeing?
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So
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sleepiness, I want to explain sleepiness first. Sleepiness is
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many reasons, many reasons for sleepiness. If you are tired, also sleepy. Body very tired, also sleepy. Eating a lot, also sleepy. If you are not enough sleep, also sleepy. Actually, for meditator,
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because of the sleepiness, because of the effort and wisdom is weak.
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This
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energy, this mind is not working very well, then the sleepiness can come. So sleepiness, how to deal with the sleepiness is use your effort all, but people they use only more use people they can use effort. Try to, if you wake up and they relax and sleepy come again. Because of people they can use effort.
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But actually the better way is wisdom. So you need to use your wisdom. How to use your wisdom? Only you try to think about object or the mind, how bright it is. Use some question to be interest, reminding yourself, right? Thinking a little bit about interest for practice or experience.
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How about the object? How many objects do you know? What state of mind are you meditate? Then you just asking yourself and make some question that make your mind more wake up. This first.
ZH
禅师那就是先解释一下关于昏沉这个问题。这昏沉呢，他说有很多原因导致昏沉。例如呢，我们身体很劳累，可能昏沉我们吃多了可能昏沉，我们睡眠不足可能昏沉。但是对于禅修者来讲呢，一般我们的昏沉是有两个原因。第一就是精进力不够和智慧不够，这两个情况心就会落入昏沉。但是大家都会比较熟悉精进力，大家都会操作精进力，就是专注所缘或者各种方法。但是问题是说，有时候我们提起精进力，昏沉消失了，但是精进力一放松又没有了，就是又昏沉了。其实会就是说精进力大家最少是有一些掌握。但是禅师说最好是用运用智慧，最好是用智慧。怎么样运用智慧呢？就是说心有兴趣，对于所缘有兴趣。比如说昏沉本身，昏沉本身，或者呢去提问自己一些问题，就是说让自己觉得兴趣，当下有兴趣。比如说现在当下能知道多少个所缘，心现在当下的状态是怎么样，就是想一些方法令心有兴趣，就是自己可以尝试用不同的问题去看哪样可以行得通。这样也是培养智慧。
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好。就是。 For example, when you do meditation, then you ask, what state of mind do you know? What kind of mind do you know? How many different minds can you know?
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Asking like this, if you are not very awake, the mind becomes awake. If you want to know, if the mind becomes interest.
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禅师说例如坐禅的时候呢，你可以问自己有多少种心的状态你能知道。就是说问一些，例如啊，这是一个举例，就是你对你自己可能有另外更有兴趣的问题，就是问一些挑战性的问题。你一问，就是说你想到这些问题，心就会醒了，就想去找答案，就是想去观察嘛，当下心的状态怎么样。那这样这个心清醒了，那个昏沉就不见了。 那这么说就是在坐禅当中就去思惟，就去思惟。 Yes.
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If your awareness is sharp, you know many things. No need to think too much. Because our wisdom is working, our effort is working, no need. If sleepiness, sometimes the mind is weak. So if your wisdom is not enough, sometimes we can, for example, I want to know, when you are sitting time, what intention do you know?
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禅师说当我们的觉知很强的时候，不用去思惟。但是当昏沉的时候，心不够强，就是你要用这个智慧去辅助。那比如说他说在他其中一个问题他在问，就是在坐禅的时候，有多少个这个动机我们能察觉到呢？就是你就是这样的问题，心就会去有兴趣去观察。 对，这个就是。 No, no, no.
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So
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one time I asked yogi, people they only know don't see is action. But sitting time, no action. Totally the mind is no move. The body is no move. The whole body no move. But I said, there is a lot of intention. So one yogi, he don't know. So he tried to understand, he tried to find out, he tried to, you know.
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So he start to aware of himself. He tried very, not tried very hard, but he want to know what kind of intention I have. So if he really want to know, the mind never sleepy. Right. Right? Right.
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Every moment there are intentions. Maybe I don't say yet, maybe they check their attention, but. Yeah, yeah.
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禅师举例就是说，有一次，就是说一般我们觉得动机是我们在动作的时候，身体有所行为，有行为的时候，我们会观察到动机。但是呢，打坐的时候其实身体是不动的，对不对？没有什么动作。那怎么样去知道有没有动机呢？他说有一次他问一个禅修者，那个禅修者呢，就很好奇，就想去知道这个答案。禅师说如果你真的想知道答案的话，你的心是没有一刻没事做的，你想知道动机。
ZH
是，那这样就是禅师在引导我们坐禅的时候，他禅师有每天会不一样的一个引导嘛。那像今天就是他会开始说，你知道你现在知道心的状态吗？因为刚开始我们会以我们就是我们的习惯是说安般呼吸所缘，然后整个让心可以慢慢稳定下来。那这时候禅师他就出现他的引导了，就说你心的状态，你现在知道你的心的状态吗？那这时候我就是类似这样子，我就不知道说，那我现在就要去觉察说我心，就像说我现在都不动啊，我心是可以是稳定的时候，那这样都不动，那我觉察心的状态是从哪边进入。
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So she's asking you in the guided meditation, you are asking people, do you know your mind state? She said she doesn't know what that means. She doesn't even, she's doing Anapana, she doesn't even know how to check the mind state. Do you know your feeling? Happy or sad or
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interest or not? You cannot understand?
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禅师说你的心，你能知道心的感受，比如开心不开心，能知道吗？ 当时在坐禅的当中。 不是，就是一般心。 知道啊，会知道。 知道。 开心当然就很快乐。
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…