Q&ALing Shan Temple Retreat26 Apr 2018
Group 07 — Pain as Dhamma and Dealing with Emotions
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 58 min
Original audio: English · Chinese interpretation
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A group interview addressing physical pain, noise, and unpleasant emotions with an equanimous attitude. The teacher guides yogis to see sensations and sounds as conditioned natural processes, emphasizing the recognition of mental reactions rather than identifying with experiences.
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Ling Shan Temple Retreat · 25 talks
- 1013 minQ&A 05 — Investigating Anger and the Mind's Process24 Apr 2018
- 111 hr 27 minGroup 05 — Working with Images, Pain, and the Unstable Mind25 Apr 2018
- 122 hr 1 minGroup 06 — Maintaining Awareness at Six Sense Doors and Right View25 Apr 2018
- 139 minQ&A 06 — Practicing with Right View in Walking Meditation25 Apr 2018
- Viewing141 hr 59 minGroup 07 — Pain as Dhamma and Dealing with Emotions26 Apr 2018
- 152 hr 44 minGroup 08 — Momentum of Awareness and Knowing the Meditating Mind26 Apr 2018
- 169 minQ&A 07 — Observing Discomfort and Understanding Dukkha26 Apr 2018
- 171 hr 13 minGroup 09 — Checking the Attitude and Accepting with Wisdom27 Apr 2018
- 181 hr 53 minGroup 10 — Dealing with Sleepiness and Natural Awareness27 Apr 2018
- 1912 minQ&A 08 — Right Reflection and Understanding Dukkha27 Apr 2018
Transcript
ZH
前天晚上，就是说已经结束要回去休息的时候，就还是一样保持正念观照。那在突然间听到，其实我已经睡着了，然后后来听到很多的关门声，就突然"咚"，很大声这样子。那有吓到，有醒来，然后有发现到有起尘心，然后会觉得已经睡着了。因为我现在有心律不整的问题，所以我突然这样吓到的时候，心脏会一阵刺痛，所以我整个就照禅师讲的，就是整个这样子的去观照。然后后来发现，就是禅师讲的那个自然法，那其实一切都是无常苦无我的状态。那其实这个要再倒回去是因为，我发现那个现象，它是只有因缘和合组成的，就是有一个声音，有一个耳朵，有一个听到的，有一个想要听到的心，然后再加上那个空间，那个风传过来，所以造成整个听到。整个声音这样传过来，听到就接下来撞击到受的那个感觉，惊吓到的感觉。结果知道惊吓的时候，那一瞬间所有的东西又没有了，就是很清楚的，东西就是在当下而已，没有延续。对。
English
So in the night, she already falling sleep, and people closing door, the sound "dong" woke her. Wake up, then? Yeah, and then the virgin. A virgin come, yes. And so she keep watching the virgin, and then understand the everything happen is the nature, because she know the sound, because she has a ear, and then the
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air, and then the sound. Yes, that's why I said hearing is nature, because the sound, you ear good, the sound happen, then you can hear. Hears can happen, right? So this is conditioning, right?
English
So they realize about this. And she also realize this a virgin also happen in a moment and then gone. Yes, right, very good.
ZH
禅说非常好，对，就声音的发生都是因缘和合嘛。对，然后后来我发现，其实那个当下其实就是那个一瞬间而已，就没有了。后来当明白这个什么是禅师讲的那个因缘和合，发现这一切都是这样子组合才有这样子的惊吓。然后即便明白了这个道理，想要再一次去确认这样子的东西，可是你也叫不回来了。就是说没有一个我在那边去控制我要这样子的声音再发生一次，这样子的情形再发生一次。后来我发现那个禅师一直在讲的感觉只是感觉，声音只是声音那个东西。如果我们没有去抓住，事实上我们也抓不住。那么这些东西都是会穿透过去的，没有一个感觉会留在心里面的。就是什么东西都是很容易就是穿过，听到一个声音。因为我们有一个辨别，就是说过去我们习惯说以为有一个我可以抓住，所以当遇到所有的状态的时候，我会把这个分类，这个是好的，这个是不好的。因为有这个分类，所以就有这个记忆。可是如果我听到的声音只是听到，没有去把它做这个分类的话，这样子的现象它就是整个穿过去，穿过去，穿过去，就没有东西会留在留住了。然后就变成痛苦，你想要痛苦，痛苦也留不下来；你想要快乐，快乐也留不下来。就什么东西都是一直飘过去的。
English
So she said if she really understand feeling just feeling, sound is just sound, mind is mind, and then cannot keep anything, the sound just arise, pass away, arise, pass away. But if the mind start to
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judge like this is good, this is bad, and then the. Then problem comes, right? True. So that's why we are aware.
ZH
所以说禅师所以说我们要觉知嘛。对。
English
Beginning we try to think about this nature, this nature, it's only information, you not understand very well yet, but we use this knowledge to apply this, and slowly the experience, we learn from the experience, then the mind more understanding about everything is nature and they own the cause and the effect.
ZH
禅说他一开始跟我们讲就一切都是自然法，这个只是一个信息来的。那个时候就我们听到这个信息其实我们还不是很明白。然后我们在像您刚刚报告的那个经验里边，然后我们学习，知道这个是因，这个是果，然后慢慢慢慢这个心就真正的理解什么叫做一切是自然法。
English
So you see, angry also you not choice, you not try to angry, but it come conditioning, right?
ZH
禅说瞋心也是一样，没有选择，你没有说我要起瞋心，它瞋心就这样发生了。
English
You are sleep.
ZH
对，禅说这个就是因缘嘛，说你还在睡觉呢，你砰一下醒了就瞋心就起来了。
English
Obviously it is a conditioning, right?
ZH
就很明显的，这个就是一个因缘和合。
English
If you not feed them, they rising; if you not feed them, they gone. Problem is this defilement, we feed them. You stay here and
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give something, then they long time to stay here.
ZH
禅说问题就是什么，就其实这个烦恼起来以后它就走了嘛，因为就生起就灭去。但问题是我们还在喂这个烦恼，就是烦恼生起时候我们一直喂它，然后这个烦恼就在这边待着，这个是问题。 对，所以其实。
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Like a visitor, right, come to you, you don't feed them, you not encourage them, they come, they do nothing to do, they go.
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We said, you said, "Oh, cha, cha, cha, tea, tea,"
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and they stay there drinking long time.
ZH
禅说就像家里来客人一样，他过来如果你不理他，他看看你没什么可以做的，他就跑了嘛。但问题是家里来客人，你说来来喝茶喝茶，要不要喝咖啡，他们就在那边很开心的喝，就不走了。
ZH
对，所以其实后来我发现，当已经可以看到它这个组合的方式了之后，那么之前那个四正勤上面讲的，令未生起之恶不生，令未生起之善生起，其实我们可以在那个当下去注入善的因缘。其实所有的因缘它其实是可以在那个时候去转动的，它变成我们不是照着随业流转的去只有承受而已。其实我在就是说在组合的当下，这一些因组合的当下，看到的时候，其实在那个时候善法进去，它整个因缘走向会完全的不一样。
English
She said at the moment if she really understand this is conditioning, she does not have to follow the karma, she can really choose to the good behavior, good condition. Right, but at that moment you can choose if you are aware.
ZH
禅说对，当下你可以选择，如果你有觉知的话，当下我们就可以选择。
English
If you are not aware, if you are not wisdom, you have no choice, you have no choice, you already follow the defilement.
ZH
禅说如果当下没有智慧的话，没有任何选择，就是跟着烦恼就跑。 所以后来我才发现，原来宁静一直就在那边，只是我们一直以为我必须往外找，去把它抓到一个什么东西叫做宁静，把它摆过来。其实不是，是你放掉一切的时候，宁静其实就是在那边，它不是从外面去寻找的，它本来就在那边，只是我们自己被障蔽而已。
English
And she understand the peace actually is already there, but we try to find it outside, but actually it's inside.
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If we let it go, the peace is already there. There is no defilement, there is already peace.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…