Q&ALing Shan Temple Retreat25 Apr 2018
Group 05 — Working with Images, Pain, and the Unstable Mind
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 26 min
Original audio: English · Chinese interpretation
0:00−1:26:48
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In this group interview, the teacher explains how to work with mental images, bodily pain, and an unstable mind. Meditators are advised not to switch objects merely to seek calm, but to recognize reacting attitudes and maintain simple awareness of nature.
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Ling Shan Temple Retreat · 25 talks
- 714 minQ&A 04 — Maintaining Awareness While Talking and in Vipassanā23 Apr 2018
- 81 hr 45 minGroup 03 — Open Awareness and Everything Is Nature24 Apr 2018
- 91 hr 57 minGroup 04 — Tension, Motivation, and Cause and Effect24 Apr 2018
- 1013 minQ&A 05 — Investigating Anger and the Mind's Process24 Apr 2018
- Viewing111 hr 27 minGroup 05 — Working with Images, Pain, and the Unstable Mind25 Apr 2018
- 122 hr 1 minGroup 06 — Maintaining Awareness at Six Sense Doors and Right View25 Apr 2018
- 139 minQ&A 06 — Practicing with Right View in Walking Meditation25 Apr 2018
- 141 hr 59 minGroup 07 — Pain as Dhamma and Dealing with Emotions26 Apr 2018
- 152 hr 44 minGroup 08 — Momentum of Awareness and Knowing the Meditating Mind26 Apr 2018
- 169 minQ&A 07 — Observing Discomfort and Understanding Dukkha26 Apr 2018
Transcript
English
Okay, we can start now.
ZH
好，禅师说现在可以开始。 No time.
English
没有时间。 Yes.
ZH
没有，那个要录音。
ZH
请问禅师，就是说我每次打坐，我都是用很自然的心来做打坐，所以那个目标呢，它很快就会出现。但是就因为那个目标很快就会出现，但是那个目标出现呢，我们说要用觉察力来看。但是因为那个目标出现，对我来讲，那个目标，我总是觉得那些目标都是我做不到的目标。
ZH
Huh? What kind of目标? 目标什么目标? 就是内在反应出来的东西。
English
Feeling or thoughts? 内在反应出来的东西。 Feeling and thoughts.
ZH
都是跟我的日常生活没有关联。 反应出来的就是，禅师问是不是反应出来的感受和思想，就是心它所呈现出来的。
English
That's different.
English
If you mind arising, there's only thoughts or feeling. It's there already.
ZH
禅师说如果有心反映出来，只有思想跟情绪了，那可能就是，那就是我的心反映出来的。但是因为这个所看到的东西，对我来讲是那个目标都太远大，跟我的日常生活都没有关联，所以我不知道该怎么处理。 反映出来的目标太远大。 就是所谓的，有一些的所缘是让它来来去去，但是有一些的所缘是真实像我可能要告诉我，想要去知道一些什么事情。可是那个目标太远大，我都说不了。
ZH
你说的那个目标不是所缘，是那个生活目标。 心所展现出来的。
ZH
心所展现出来的这个所缘。
English
Image of people or what kind of things? 是人吗? 人是。
ZH
不是，比如说我昨天打坐的时候呢，它就是会生起一块都是方地，荒凉的地。可是一个荒凉的地，很快我就看到有露出来。 Image.
English
Image. 是什么? So this is image, imagination.
ZH
禅师说这个是图像，是一种想像。
English
The mind created images. 不要去理它。这个是。 Don't watch this. If you watch like this and continue story comes.
ZH
禅师说不要去理它。如果你持续去看它，然后就会有故事出来。 对啊，就是都有故事啊。
English
That's why this story comes, because the mind continue thinking. Because of thinking, the image coming. Like a movie. You're watching the movie. You are not meditating.
ZH
禅师说因为心一直在想，所以这个图像就会持续出来，就好像你在看电影，但是你不在禅修。
English
This is like because of the mind calm down, the thinking become more obvious.
English
The mind created. That's why this I said, in the thinking, sometimes image, sometimes sound, voice, sometimes sentence, they are concepts. Because of the mind thinking, this appear. But image, this is a concept object, not reality object.
ZH
禅师说是因为心静下来呢，这个思想就会变得很明显。那思想的展现呢，刚刚禅师也讲到，就是有图像啦，有声音啦，还有一些句子啦。但是这个图像啊，这个是一个概念法。 对。那请问禅师。
English
So depend on the deep personality, characteristic, the image.
English
Many image can come, sometimes ugly, sometimes how to say, blood, or sometimes bone, or sometimes it's Buddha, statue, and forest. This is depend on the people characteristic that this image can arising.
ZH
禅师说根据人的不同的性格啦，特性啦，这个展现的图像也有所不同。有的就是很可怕啦，有的就会出现佛像啦，森林啦等等。
English
So image arising. But if you continue thinking, pay attention to the mind state, unconscious level, the mind state thinking. Because of this thinking, this image arising. So if you continue pay attention to the mind state thinking, this story will come.
ZH
因为思想所以产生了这个图像。如果你持续的去关注这个图像，在很微细的这个层面啊，这个思想还在继续，所以这个图像还会继续出来。 那我是到底要不要再去关它?
ZH
No, no. 禅师说不要。 可是我时常。 时常会有这样。因为我静坐我都会放空我自己啊。所以都会不同的图像它会跑出来。
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…