Q&ANirodha Insight Meditation in Finland Retreat1 Jun 2019
Week 2 day 1 group A2 — Wisdom at Work, Subconscious Mind, and Decision-Making
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 9 min
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In this group interview, the teacher clarifies how wisdom functions when allowing experiences to flow freely. The discussion also explores the gap between intention and action, the workings of the subconscious mind, and maintaining mindfulness during decision-making.
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Transcript
EnglishIt feels a little bit of a shock to suddenly be in a very different group. Yes.
EnglishLuring. But too reloading when we sit here and then head to your. Relower. Related. So I have to breathe a few times. Then an ensue.
EnglishYeah. I have a question.
EnglishThere are periods that I am— it's like objects, whether they are sounds or
Englishthoughts or sensations— they feel like they're really flowing freely through, without
Englishinterfering with them. It's just flowing. And
Englishso my assumption is that the attitude is right. But I have a question about
Englishthe wisdom, because I wonder whether I am too much
Englishjust be awareness but no wisdom. Because Sayadaw talks about the importance of wisdom, not just the awareness, but the wisdom as well. So the question is, is wisdom available at that stage? And
Englishthe interesting thing is, if I want in that state when I am— when I'm not this like that— and I want to
Englishkind of ask a question, it's like something prevents me from asking questions. There's no kind of— yeah, there's just no kind of— I don't know how to explain it, but
Englishas if they are irrelevant, any and whatever question, or whether it is more something is— I don't know. The questions just cannot express themselves. So I'm wondering what, actually, whether I am— whether the visual aspect is available,
Englishor whether I am too stuck in just awareness. So that's the question. Well, the deep kind of ayurvedic flow a little bit, the deeper traditional a little bit, they perhaps say that bow for many— down the bottom and a little to the utter— the bottom and a little say that ayurvedic or the deeper or the chakra, the lower third, one and a half, it means that to make on the Kuthwa to Mela— Nyang Opala, Nyang Shila, to make on Mema so in the Kuthwa say, go pay Mama a little bit for Pya Nai Na, Megua, the agent name, Megua, the debt machine, relevant machine, Masai who want to error,
Englishthat Mebo— Mate no say that Mamera Lama, hoy le tua, the deal who's paying Nyang Pya Dala, who the debt machine is, Nyang— Shila, Pali Dala. Nyang Shila. When the soil so there to Nala Shila, the Kali Daya say that Nala Pita who does. For me a little bit. For me a little bit of the chakra who say that say that Nala— Yeah, yeah.
EnglishI don't recognize the name. Nala a little bit to Mega— So this is—
EnglishMatuete who— Tuira Tuiro Mahao, Maloulo Tuira— Nyang Mera Hodra. Malo into Matsang Tuiro, Tuira Tui Chin, say so that Tui Ma, Tui Ma. So Tui Ma, Tui Malo— Maloulo so that Maloulo Pure, Matuete Pya Dogo. To Pure Bones so in that,
EnglishNyang Pali in that little bit of Pure. Yeah. So Seyadaw says, "From what he—" Intense Yama Logo. Yeah. From what he has heard of your practice,
Englishhe said, "There is wisdom." It sounds like there is wisdom. And sometimes it can be so obvious that we don't notice the wisdom. Because he said the very fact that the awareness can just allow the experience to flow through and not get caught up in any experiences, there's an understanding. Because it's so easy for the mind to get caught up and start following its experiences instead of staying with awareness and allowing everything to pass through.
EnglishIf I'm a sinner, so in all nivas. Yes. Always the unwholesome, the greed and the aversion, they catch, they latch, and then they get involved in the experience rather than remaining aware. So there is that wisdom. It's that wisdom that allows the mind to understand that there's no need to hold on to any experience and just allowing it to pass through.
EnglishBut you don't recognize that that wisdom is working. But certainly it's working, otherwise it won't be in that flow. The other kind of wisdom, Seyadaw says, that is there is that recognition. He says, "Our thoughts are always— the mind always thinks." But for the mind to even be able to recognize that a thought is necessary or not, that's a kind of wisdom.
EnglishSo when you say that you want to think, like you want to think of a question and the mind is like recognizing maybe it's not relevant, it's not necessary, that's a wisdom. It sees that it doesn't have to put itself through some meaningless exercise. Yes, so. It felt like some level what you say, kind of meaningless or something.
EnglishYeah. Yeah. So it didn't want to go that way. That's right. Yes. It understands. So there's an understanding of what's useful and meaningful and what's not. And what happened a while later when I was at a later point during the day, suddenly the questions came up, "Who is this?" And it's like I didn't recognize.
EnglishIt was kind of, it's a different person. Who is this? And I stayed with that question also and without trying to. But just that kind of different perception also. That's right. Yeah. To a hot— to
Englisha agent Mega to Mega Mebo Chuzaro to that debt machine or thing that
EnglishMepyra Nela Laucharo to Mega Mega Mega to Mega to Chuzawa, the Mego to Mamiwu, the Matuewu, that agent to Aphirocha Mashao, the little bit chin, Maturelo chin a little bit to Maturo to that Mera the little bit thing.
EnglishMego Mera Nyang Mego Mega Mega to Lila Nyang Loni. So that's the wisdom at work as well, Seyadaw says, when the question comes spontaneously, it's also the wisdom. Then asking the question, the change in perception is also wisdom seeing through a different lens and so on.
EnglishNyang Shila like Mego to Nala Nala Laucharo to Nyang Lolo Mega— So the wisdom is at work. It knows when to ask the questions, what to look at, how to learn. Just. I think that's a little bit. Yeah. At this stage, in this state, he says, you don't really have to try to squeeze anything out of the mind. Loni so that's what I'm telling you.
EnglishThat was it. Nyang Shila so that's what I'm doing. Just allowing the mind to do what it needs to do and getting out of the way so that it can continue. That's just what we need. Yeah. Just what we need. Okay. Thank you. Yeah.
EnglishMego to that, that is what Mega Mega Mega Mega is like. Yeah, yeah. So in total. That means to Pure to the. That means to don't that. Exactly. Information a little bit. That was a little bit. That's what I'm going to show you.
EnglishI guess we are discussing.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…