Q&ANirodha Insight Meditation in Finland Retreat1 Jun 2019
Week 2 day 1 group A1 — Talking Meditation and Working with Defilements
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 46 min
Original audio: Burmese · English interpretation
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This group interview covers recognizing resurfacing defilements and staying aware while speaking. The teacher advises returning to neutral objects when aversion rises, and clarifies the difference between wisdom's interest and greed.
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Nirodha Insight Meditation in Finland Retreat · 33 talks
- 82 hr 20 minWeek 1 day 6 group A — The Meditating Mind, Balancing Effort and Observing Defilements30 May 2019
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- 101 hr 53 minWeek 1 day 7 group C — Recognizing the Mind at Work and Working with Lobha31 May 2019
- 1137 minWeek 1 day 8 — Practicing at Home and Cultivating Wholesome Qualities1 Jun 2019
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- 1459 minWeek 2 day 2 group D — Recognizing Thoughts as Mind and Working with Judging Mind2 Jun 2019
- 1528 minWeek 2 day 2 group E — Maintaining Awareness and Observing Mental Habits2 Jun 2019
- 162 hr 6 minWeek 2 day 3 group A1 — Attitude Toward Experiences, Greed, and Reality3 Jun 2019
- 171 hr 46 minWeek 2 day 3 group A2 — Dangers of High Concentration and Right View on Thinking3 Jun 2019
Transcript
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Okay, I'll start this time. Okay. Sorry about that. Yeah, do some, yeah. Yeah. First time I'm reporting. I'm feeling a bit nervous; there was some computer problem in previous session and then talking for the first time here. Anyway,
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yesterday when I went to sleep, then
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I didn't sleep first, and then I became sad, and then I cried. And I was a bit surprised because usually I don't cry on retreats.
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And,
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uh, well, it didn't last very long, so then I slept. And in the morning I woke up and then I remembered what had happened. And then I noticed that I got sad again, and then I cried. Then I was sitting in the room and then I kind of noticed that the
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thing happened kind of again and again. And at some point I kind of remembered in the interview there was this, like, somebody said about fear, and then Sayadaw said that there's kind of the thought and then there's the fear coming up. And then I kind of noticed that there's this kind of same thought that comes to my mind and then it triggers the sadness.
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And then the sadness kind of triggers the crying. And
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anyway, it was kind of easy to be in the room alone and then this was just happening there.
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And then it was breakfast time and
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I had laid down for 10 minutes and went for breakfast and was kind of
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feeling that I didn't want to cry there, kind of because the social situation. And then I could observe, like,
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how the mind was repressing the thought so that it was kind of lurking there. But then
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it was sort of interesting to see the process because I haven't observed similarly, kind of sadness and this kind of thing.
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I have some ideas, kind of, about what kind of thoughts and maybe some past
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things there may lie behind. I think
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there's something I want to still do about it, kind of, but not in this setting.
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Yeah.
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But anyway, yeah, sort of. I don't think I have anything really to ask about it, but I wanted to kind of say it aloud, report it, and maybe see if there's any feedback.
[Burmese segment]
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Yeah. This the mind is kind of like he says we can never know what to expect from the mind.
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And when it happens, he says, the most we can do is be interested in what it's, yeah, presenting. Even the most hard. Hard. Hard hearted of us, he says, can become, like.
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. He says, even the most hard hearted of us can become quite tender, especially on retreat, because, you know, we're kind of open and receive, receptive, and so on, and. . Yeah. And it's very clear that for the mind it's just a process, like maybe, you know, something triggers the mind, and it could be just a memory, or something they see or hear, you know, and it just gets triggered.
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The process starts. A to Z
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He says, so often the mind is just sort of, like, it's holding itself up against everything that it's, you know, that it doesn't want to experience. And he said there was this yogi that came once, a Vietnamese came, well, with a group of Vietnamese, and when he gave the instructions and he said to relax, he says the yogi reported later that when he was told to relax, he said, when he began to relax, he said, fear came up.
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And he saw that all his life he had fear, but he was kind of holding out against fear.
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. His external, like, the way he looks, Sayadaw said, if you even looked at the yogi, he looked like quite an angry person, yeah, and, but he was using his anger to sort of not feel his fear. And he felt it when he tried to relax.
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. So he says, whatever the mind holds, it will, it will come up, and we can just watch. . Sayadaw says, all your old debts will appear, and then you can pay them off, you can pay them off, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they will. .
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. Yeah. Okay. . Yeah, Sayadaw says, yeah, for all of us who meditate, Sayadaw says, all this old stuff comes up, our hang-ups, our beliefs, and all that come up, and then we, as we clear them from the mind, the mind starts to feel much lighter and clearer, and, and, yeah.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…