Q&AShwe Oo Min Dhamma Sukha Retreat2 Apr 2016
Day 6 Dhamma discussion group D — Knowing Mind, Object, and Continuous Practice in Daily Life
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 59 min
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0:00−59:09
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A group interview addresses recognizing the knowing mind and objects, as well as noticing intention without interfering. The teacher explains that the aim of meditation is to learn from reality rather than wishing sensations away. Practitioners should maintain natural awareness patiently throughout daily life.
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- 111 hr 11 minDay 5 Dhamma discussion group B — Recognizing Wisdom and Craving in the Mind1 Apr 2016
- 1244 minDay 6 morning guided — Recognizing Mind Activities and Natural Effort2 Apr 2016
- 131 hr 29 minDay 6 Dhamma discussion group C — Changing Mind's Habitual Reactions and Cultivating Interest2 Apr 2016
- Viewing1459 minDay 6 Dhamma discussion group D — Knowing Mind, Object, and Continuous Practice in Daily Life2 Apr 2016
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- 161 hr 26 minDay 7 Dhamma discussion group A — Wrong View, Aversion, and Natural Speed3 Apr 2016
- 171 hr 40 minDay 7 Dhamma discussion group B — Craving, the Sense of Self, and Awareness3 Apr 2016
- 181 hr 26 minDay 8 Dhamma discussion group C — Not Aiming for Awareness and Knowing the Mind Door4 Apr 2016
- 191 hr 11 minDay 8 Dhamma discussion group D — Taking Care of Emotions First and Practicing in Daily Life4 Apr 2016
Transcript
EnglishOkay. Um, last time when we were talking about, um, aversion to smelling— Aversion to? Smelling. Smelling, yeah. Yes. So, um, I've been practicing, and, um, the mind still wants to react whenever it feels to have a choice: to go to a smelly toilet or not smelly toilet.
EnglishSo our 10 alternatives is only 1 for time to go to a smelly toilet. And, um, I'm keep reminding myself that, let it be, I'm not trying to be aware, I just want to know. Don't be aware, just go in. Um, and then one time it's very interesting that I'm okay, I'm just going in, and, um, I'm not trying to be aware.
EnglishBecause whenever I try to be aware, then I start to notice movement, body movement, and pain sensation. So, um— So meaning is you're not trying to aware your body. Yes. But awareness is present. Yes. Oh. So, um, and then when I walk in, just let it be. And suddenly when I put my hand up about to flush, then awareness stops the, the, the, the habit of aware, of hand movement is back on.
EnglishSo at the same time with aware of body, hand, intention, and try to be natural. Mm-hmm. So the, the mind becomes confused. So it reaches out the hand and then it doesn't know what to do. And I see it's interesting. So I look at the confusing mind and it's just gone.
EnglishAnd it makes decisions just flush. The confusing mind is gone. And then the same thing with last night when, um, I was walking. If you can aware the mind already, physical object also already. No need to focus to the physical object. Yes. Already knowing. Because knowing mind, the knowing the object is together.
EnglishYes. So object and knowing mind is together. You can aware the mind state, the object is already there. Yeah. But I'm not skillful, so it's just keep, like, leaning to, like, the mind keep being conditioned, changing condition. It's leaning to, into the object. Beginning we are trying to focus to the object, object, object, object. Yes. But later if you can see the knowing mind, know the object, know the object, know the object, and then knowing the object is together.
EnglishSo we take care of the knowing mind, then know the physical object, also other mental activity also we can know. Yeah. And it's, it's kind of interesting because yesterday when I was walking and, um, I'm trying, I'm trying, same process. I'm trying to be natural, not try to be aware of the body movement anymore.
EnglishAnd the mind try to, I know that my eyes looking, hearing, body movement sensation. And my hand is try to put either left or, like, left on or right on. So it's become confused again. And I'm, I'm just about to look at confusing mind is gone. It makes the decision. So it's kind of, like, very difficult to look at the mind when it's right.
EnglishAnd then now it is better. This is better state.
EnglishThis is the awareness, better awareness quality. Because you know the mind. The mind knows the physical object and also the idea or some feeling already know. Yes. And, um, when last night the body is tired, um, the, the mental state, the feel heavy, like dull, because it's 10 o'clock already.
EnglishA little bit of sleepy. But the knowing mind is not tired. It's very sharp. It's looking at, like, knowing every movement of the body, sensation, hearing, seeing. And then, um, I, I try to be natural as much as I can. Not trying to be noticed or, like, being aware. Mm-hmm. And then the body cannot walk straight because it's already sleepy.
EnglishSo the step is about to walk, like drunken person. Step in this and I can see the mind, like, making the decision how far it will walk. Mm-hmm. Like two more steps before it's falling. And it's look interesting. So I'm looking at the mind and I'm awake. Totally awake.
EnglishI can see it. So I'm not skillful at the effort yet. Because if you're more focusing than the natural process, you cannot see the natural process. Yes. So it just keep like that. That's why we're not trying to looking. We try to see. Seeing, seeing enough. If you're looking, then you cannot see it. Yeah. The process is gone.
EnglishYeah. So confusing and consciousness, it's, it's just so, so shy. Cannot see. Um, when I'm at eating time, um, I can see that the mind
Englishsearching the value of the food on the plate. Mm-hmm. Um, it's, it's already have a value of, like, meat or fruit, food, or whatever. It's like it that way. So it's have an image of the mouth or how big the mouth opened before it opened. Mm-hmm. But when it come to steamed rice, it doesn't like it that much.
EnglishSo it doesn't have that kind of image. So it's just plan, do have the planning just before it opened it. But all the thing is already planned far ahead before that. And, um, so I'm asking myself, why is that? Why is ha be different in different kind of food is on the same plate?
EnglishAnd I see that it's already have a value, like, this is good, this is not good. I like this, this is like, this is not like. So basically it just want to, the created want to satisfy the expectation of the food because of the taste. So that's why it's planning ahead. And even if I'm taking steamed rice, the, the eyes still pay attention to all the food.
EnglishSo I see that attachment to the taste is making how the process going with how we choose, how we choose the food. Right. How fast we choose, how strong we, everything. Like, really. Many steps in the mind. Yes. Very fast. Very quick. Yes. Um, happiness.
EnglishUm, I'm keep asking myself about why the mind happy and just smile, big smile with somebody and doesn't want to smile to someone. And so far I only can come to the conclusion just a little bit. Whenever
Englishthe mind see the illusion of I in present, like I gain something or this is mine, then it's defined this is happiness. So it's earned something because of the illusion. So that's why it feel happy. But, um, beside, but when that condition is changed and when the wisdom is there, there's no I, just mind and object, then the, there's not happiness is there.
EnglishBut the, the transcription. Mm-hmm. That kind of is equanimity. Because the wisdom is present, the mind is equanimity, neutral. Yes. And with that, the happiness is, I, I don't know it's called happiness or not, but it's last longer. It's not make you laugh, but it's feel, it's, it's, it's, it's not condition.
EnglishIt cannot be changed like the other one. Because the other one is based on the outside. So so far I just come to that much.
EnglishYeah. That's it for one. So keep going.
EnglishYes. Sayadaw, um, so yesterday I start practicing using, uh, using a sip in.
EnglishUh, I start to get more energy. Mm-hmm. And, uh, more effort. Mm-hmm. So throughout the day I can be really alert and really awake. Mm-hmm. Also aware of doing the sip in. Yes. Yes. So. Sip in. Yeah. It's because of the energy. Right. So during the yesterday morning sip in, so, so I keep my eye open and I still can stay aware.
EnglishMm-hmm. And during the sip in, there's a lot of fright. Mm-hmm. The, the fright. Right. Fright around my face and stop at my ear and eyes and mouth. So I also noticed that there's an intention, uh, because it's stop at my mouth. Mm-hmm.
EnglishSo I saw that there's a process of intention that can be the first. Mm-hmm. Then after that, if you still want to go away, then only I use my hand to. Mm-hmm. But I just saw the intention, my hand already start to. Mm-hmm. Push it. That's intention. Many intention.
EnglishIt's intention to, to get rid of the fright, right? Yes. So you need intention to move. Yes. Before I noticed that. This is a gross intention. Gross intention is try to get rid of the fright. But there's a process, inside the process, you need the intention to. Hand move. But I didn't see it.
EnglishYes. My hand already hand move. Okay. This intention is gross because I don't like. Yes. So this you cannot not, easy to notice about the intention to get rid of. But. So intention to, this also intention. That's a gross level. Gross level. But subtle level also, there's many intention to move. Okay.
EnglishRight.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…