Q&AShwe Oo Min Dhamma Sukha Retreat31 Mar 2016
Day 4 Dhamma discussion group C — Nature and Concept, Object and Awareness, and Cause and Effect
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 18 min
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The Sayadaw clarifies the distinction between concepts and natural reality through the sense doors. Maintaining continuous awareness develops stability and wisdom without excessive focus, naturally fostering letting go.
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Shwe Oo Min Dhamma Sukha Retreat · 25 talks
- 325 minDay 3 morning guided — Object and Knowing Mind30 Mar 2016
- 41 hr 15 minDay 3 Dhamma discussion group A — Checking Attitude, Quality of Awareness, and Nature of Defilements30 Mar 2016
- 51 hr 14 minDay 3 Dhamma discussion group B — Perception, Intention and Watching the Mind in Daily Life30 Mar 2016
- 630 minDay 4 morning guided — Experience as Object and Checking the Mind31 Mar 2016
- Viewing71 hr 19 minDay 4 Dhamma discussion group C — Nature and Concept, Object and Awareness, and Cause and Effect31 Mar 2016
- 81 hr 9 minDay 4 Dhamma discussion group D — Object Versus Concept, Working with Reactions, and Mind Nature31 Mar 2016
- 938 minDay 5 morning guided — Observing Mental Processes and the Value of Awareness1 Apr 2016
- 101 hr 26 minDay 5 Dhamma discussion group A — Investigating Unpleasant Objects and Neutral Mind1 Apr 2016
- 111 hr 11 minDay 5 Dhamma discussion group B — Recognizing Wisdom and Craving in the Mind1 Apr 2016
- 1244 minDay 6 morning guided — Recognizing Mind Activities and Natural Effort2 Apr 2016
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EnglishDear. Yeah. So, where did—who want to talk first?
EnglishI already said that I will talk first so I can get out early. Yeah, okay.
EnglishUm, I—I have a lot to learn on meditation. Hmm. My phone, my room is very clean, my heart is not clean. Um, meditation, focus, and let go. So. Hmm.
EnglishLet go means you are not trying to let go. Because when the understanding comes, then naturally it becomes let go. So our responsibility is just watch and learn. When the understanding comes, then naturally my let go is happening. We are not trying—we cannot let go, right? Yeah.
EnglishIf we can let go, we can let go everything, right? Let go means—let go means understand. When the understand arises, then let go is happening. So we are not trying to let go. If you try to let go means it's not really let go. Understand? Yes. Yeah. And?
EnglishAnd, um, my phone whole day. Right. Um, better at cooking when cooked. You try to help and cook? Yeah. My—I can be more mindful. Trying to aware your what you're doing. Right. More what bit your more attention where? Uh— Physical or mental?
EnglishMentally, according with the physical at the same time. Okay. Yes. Um. That's better. The mental process and the physical process also you can see same time. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Um, lacking on
Englishsit still. When I sit still. Uh, lacking what means? Uh, lacking is, um, missing. Lacking? Yes. Lacking or missing what? Yeah. On when I do sit like, if I sit. Mm-hmm. If I—if I tell myself that I have to meditate. Hmm. Then I can't. But if I do things and I just do it.
EnglishOh. Oh. Your daily activity is more easy to awareness is better. Yes. At sitting time, the mind not listening what you say. Yes. Right? Yeah. You said mindfulness is awareness loss, right? Yeah. I cannot be mindful. Oh, okay. Right.
EnglishSo as much as we can, we try to be aware, yeah? So you need to remind when you're sitting time. Because daily activity time, walking time, the mind more active. So wake up. The mind is awake. Easy to awake.
EnglishWhen you're sitting time, the mind is nothing to do. So the mind becomes passive. Now at that time, the mind is easy to lose. So you need to remind yourself what the mind is doing. What the mind is aware of. How many objects can you know? Right? Yes. Same time. So you can ask some questions. Use mind more wake up.
EnglishIf you too much focusing, also you can tired, right? Yes. So just thinking about practicing or experience or the mind is meditating. How the mind meditate. Checking. Checking means reminding yourself. Yes. What the mind how do you feel now? What the mind aware of, right? How many objects do you know?
EnglishWhich is the object? Which is the awareness? Okay. Just reminding yourself. Thinking about this, the mind wake up. Oh. Okay? Yeah. So only aware aware aware aware then slowly the mind calm down. The mind slowly effort less and less. Nobody, uh, for example, no supervisor worker is not working very well.
EnglishSo next that's why supervisor reminding is supervisor is
Englishpushing the awareness. Some advice, right? Yeah. What to how to do, how to do, can he do, right? So this is must be have. This is thinking. Yeah. Thinking about practicing or thinking about the experience. What happening? How do you feel? Which object, right? And how the mind is doing. So this thinking make your awareness wake up.
EnglishBut when the fly touching on my forehead. Oh. I was aware the fly. Yeah. Not aware the fly. No. We are aware the touching. The touching. Yeah. If you're paying attention to fly, the mind don't like. Oh. Right? This is an object, but this is two kind of object. Animal insect is constant object.
EnglishTouching is nature. Okay. So when your mind pay attention to touching, no problem. Because of sensation and object, so the mind not react. But if you think mosquito or ant or some animal insect, the mind immediately resists. Ah. So the touching, but. Just touching and knowing.
EnglishThat's all. Oh, and knowing. How about the sensation? The same. The same. Transition object. So if you're thinking about the nature, object and awareness, then no problem. This is meditating, right? Yes. So that's why we need to think about this way. Don't pay attention too much about don't thinking too much about the concept that people or animal or some concept.
EnglishThat because of define object is concept. All define pay attention to the concept. Western man nature is pay attention to the nature.
EnglishSo that's why what the mind choosing would pay attention, huh? Now you said you're thinking about the fly, then the mind don't like. So this just touching, oh, just sensation. So no problem. So in the morning, when you looking out at the sunset. Right. The mindful will say sun and stop?
EnglishThat's that's the concept. Oh, that's the concept. You need to know about you are seeing. Hmm. Seeing everything. Not sun, only sun. Everything, right? Yes. Seeing is happening. Yes. That is the meditation object. Sun is not meditation object. Oh. When we are practicing seeing means is we are not trying to pay attention to the seeing things. Just seeing is happening.
EnglishSight. We call this is a sight. The sight and knowing we call seeing. Sight is object. Okay. Knowing the sight we call seeing. Seeing happening. Seeing happening. Sound and knowing we call hearing is happening.
EnglishSo. Both seeing. Not both. Hearing. Seeing. Hearing. Oh, okay. Right? Yes, yes, yes. Attention is different, right? Yes, yes. You know? The concept, then you say, "Ah, good," or some. The bus sound you like. Machine sound don't like. Right? Because of bus or machine. Sound is a hearing. Just happening. Nature.
EnglishThe sound and knowing we call hearing. Any sound. So mindful is very simple. Yes. That direct experience. But only the mind, your wisdom, your knowledge how to pay attention. Yeah. Right? Yes. If you right thought, right view, right understanding, right knowledge, right information make you. Yeah. Calm down.
EnglishYeah. If you wrong information make you. Hmm. Hesitate. Right. Right. Right? Yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
EnglishOkay.
EnglishYes? Um, so hearing seeing. So what does form have anything to do? Huh? Forms. Form. And structures. So for example, the let's say if we take an example of a flower. Hmm. Right? So the flower come in many colors.
EnglishAnd then, you know, the petals, the whatever it is. So when you look at the flower. The image. Image. And thinking about it, this image. So yeah. So you don't label. So you say everything is an image. Not image. This is a
Englishform, shape, color. Yeah. Is concept. Okay. Rising up and down, left, right, big, small. These are concept. Okay.
EnglishAnd nature is just experience. Okay. Right? So the mind direct experience is just this can see. Okay. Can see, huh? Mm-hmm. Being seen, huh? Can see is object. Okay. So the mind knowing mind and seeing is this is nature. After this, the mind think about this.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…