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Label the object
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 10 min
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The teacher explains why mental noting is discouraged, as it easily becomes a mechanical habit. Regarding thoughts, yogis only need to naturally acknowledge their coming and going without interfering.
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EnglishOkay. Whatever you can do, bro, or you level some experience or whatever, you can talk. Yeah, so when I— when I try to follow your teachings based on what I think I know from reading your books,
Englishum, so you don't— you don't recommend using noting, right? Yes. Because I don't want to make habit. Beginning is okay. Noting, metta is a noting; the mind won't go to the object. But later and later, if you can know the object, no need.
EnglishLet go. Otherwise, you cannot go many objects. If you at the same time you know 5 objects, how do you label? It's too fast. Yeah, too fast. And many, many objects already. You can use only one object.
EnglishAll right? So if you can know the object, labeling is not important. If you use the labeling, then you cannot see the mental activity also. Because if you label, label, use the label, the mind— you cannot see the thing. Right? So that's why I don't want to make habit to use the noting.
EnglishBeginning, very beginner is okay, but I don't want to recommend the— because later and later becomes habit, and difficult to get rid of this. Right. Sometimes it becomes very habit, the noting, noting, noting, very noisy.
EnglishI know many things, but how to label it, I don't know. I'm more confused. Right? Yeah. Sometimes labeling is always late. Yeah. Now you hear how to label.
EnglishHearing, then you are aware, then the direct is of you. The mind knows the aware, knows the sound. If you label sound, hearing, late already.
EnglishThat's why the labeling, you use the labeling, that's why people become like this robot.
EnglishNaturally, natural process and labeling is you cannot
Englishfollow. So I want to be natural process. So I don't use label. If you can know the object, no need.
EnglishIt seems like there's a bit— there's a bit more thinking, and the thoughts last a bit longer when I— when I try to follow your approach.
EnglishYou said no problem, just— Yes. Just be aware. Yes. Okay. So you know resist and run away faster. Yeah. If you resist and control, then it will stay there a long, long time. Yeah. Just look. The thought is come and go, right? Let it be. No need to hold. If you liking, resist means liking, disliking means if you hold them, then more thinking comes.
EnglishSo let them come and go. Just notice, not— if you're not angry,
Englishthey're easy to come and go.
EnglishYou don't— like, if you're not dislike this thought, then the mind won't come. Because you have a right view, the mind resists, then they come and go. It's both natural way. Also, we need to know the thinking also, right? Yeah. I— I know one time, one French yogi, he's very concentrated, so heavy, so good, very good.
EnglishBut problem is when his concentration is so good, he said, very calm, very peaceful. At that time, one image come, he don't know his name, then his samādhi gone.
EnglishBecause he— he want to be know his name. He's also very attachment. Oh. He's concentration so good, but wisdom know. Not necessary, not important, but the mind want to know. Because the want to know too strong, if you don't know, the mind immediately angry.
EnglishSo his concentration very good, but very easy to gone.
EnglishYeah, and not flexible. So this is not very important, right?
EnglishSo I don't— that's why I'm not encouraged to use the label. Yeah.
EnglishAnd, yes, if you accept the process, mind more good awareness. That's why awareness continues, then the mind cannot chance to think. It come and go. Now problem is memory or some— some thought is come, then the mind liking and continue as a generated thinking.
EnglishThat is a problem. Happening is not problem. Problem is you involve and exaggerate. That is a problem, right? So now you accept whatever they come and gone, just aware then finish. And also, we're not— we're not trying to pay attention to the storyline. Just this thinking happening enough.
EnglishRight? We want to know the mind, not thinking. My story is many story, good or bad, whatever this concept. We want to know the mind state, mind nature. This mind, some mind is happening, some nature is happening. We want to know the mind, that's all. Then you can know, oh, the mind is always come and go.
EnglishAnd he do his job. Thinking mind is— he do his job is thinking.
EnglishSo this is all we call mind. Ability to think is mind nature. So you cannot stop the thinking. Yeah. Yeah. If you— you say, this mind must be think. So that's why we want to know the thinking also. But beginning, your awareness not very good enough, don't watch the thought long time.
EnglishJust notice and bring back your main object.
EnglishAnd later and later, your mind become more skillful and more mature. The mind under— your awareness understand thinking is object. Then you're not involved. Because of this also sometime understanding. This object and mind, right? Object and the awareness. Right.
EnglishOkay.
EnglishThat's all. Anything?
EnglishI think that's all for now.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…