Q&AShwe Oo Min Dhamma Sukha Retreat5 Apr 2016
Day 9 Dhamma discussion group A — Pain and Mind's Attitude, Seeing Versus Looking
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 16 min
Original audio: English
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The group interview covers working with physical pain, drowsiness, and cravings related to food. The teacher explains the difference between merely seeing and looking with effort, while guiding yogis to maintain awareness of mental processes throughout daily activities.
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- 181 hr 26 minDay 8 Dhamma discussion group C — Not Aiming for Awareness and Knowing the Mind Door4 Apr 2016
- 191 hr 11 minDay 8 Dhamma discussion group D — Taking Care of Emotions First and Practicing in Daily Life4 Apr 2016
- 2040 minDay 9 morning guided — Knowing the Awareness and the Object5 Apr 2016
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- 221 hr 16 minDay 9 Dhamma discussion group B — Handling Sleepiness and Investigating Aversion5 Apr 2016
- 231 hr 11 minDay 10 Dhamma discussion group C — Sound As Object and Knowing Mind6 Apr 2016
- 2456 minDay 10 Dhamma discussion group D — Watching Emotions, Maintaining Awareness and Facing Strong Traumas6 Apr 2016
- 2527 minClosing day · morning guided meditation and reminders — Recharging the Mind Battery and Maintaining Bare Awareness8 Apr 2016
Transcript
EnglishLet's say in the interview you talk about pain. You asked me to look into what is pain. So, last 2 days I've been looking at pain.
EnglishI don't have a good understanding, but what I noticed is it's a combination of—okay, first the mind has to be quiet—combination of sensation: tingling, pulling, punching. This is what happens. Anger. Disliking.
EnglishDisliking. A lot of thoughts: what happened, what happened, what happened. Yeah, yeah. Complain about this object. Yes. I feel this thing happening at the same time. And if I were to notice that the pain actually reduced, the mind happy, then tension, the pain comes back again.
EnglishBecause the pain decreased, that's why you're happy. Cannot. If I was not that happy, the tension coming, and one more, the pain comes back. Come back. Yes. And then? So. So I just— And the pain and relationship is—the pain and mental state is a relationship that you can see, right? Yeah. Right.
EnglishThe challenge I'm facing now is that
Englishthere's still a lot of wanting for the pain to go away. And that's why the pain stays there. Yeah. But actually, it's not because of pain. The mind is angry. Because of the wrong idea, wrong thinking makes the anger come. But people, they think it's a— all the time we are believing the pain. Because of pain, the anger is coming.
EnglishBut actually, it's not because of pain.
EnglishRight? I don't know. That one I cannot see. Because if your mind likes this pain, the mind is not angry.
EnglishYou know some people like the pain. Huh?
EnglishYeah, right. You pay money for it.
EnglishOne time I had a detachment also. Somebody was killing here. I make it more painful. I create the painful. And I enjoy the painful. Many years. And yeah, one I have this bad habit. Make the pain increasing.
EnglishAll the time I like this pain. All the time I enjoy this pain.
EnglishSo this is the mind liking is what they want. Whatever they think they do, they like it. It's reducing and creating, they're working.
EnglishBut this pain— That time I noticed very strange. Like this pain. I like this pain.
EnglishThe mind likes this pain.
EnglishBut not because of pain. But the mind, because of idea. The pain is not good. It's very bad. So then the mind angry. This pain comes back automatic.
EnglishThat's why the pain decreases. He's happy.
EnglishRight? The mind happy. Exactly. The pain comes back again. Come back again.
EnglishSo mental state, depend on how the mind thinks about this pain.
EnglishYou can learn from this mind object.
EnglishIf you watch your anger, the anger is disappeared, but pain is still there. That time you can understand how the mind thinks this time. Because of pain, the mind thinks this bad.
EnglishIf your mind, the anger disappeared, that time pain is still there. That time how do you see it? I don't know. I haven't experienced it. That's why, yeah. That time the point of view changed.
EnglishOkay. But the same experience also with flies and mosquitoes. The same thing. Sometimes you angry someone, right? Every time you saw him, very angry. Sometimes we change our thoughts. Sometimes our minds change. And thinking, reasonable thinking, or some
Englishright thinking, good thinking come, then we are not angry with this person. Right? That one I can understand. Right. The pain stays there. Similar. Similar. The same. Principle the same.
EnglishThen another experience was. When we go to the sauna. Sauna. Hot. Actually, sometimes we don't like hot. Sometimes it's— but you decide you go to the sauna, then you say, "Ah."
EnglishI just— but I'm watching this kind of people also. Very painful. That's why the body reacts.
EnglishBut still enjoying people.
EnglishBut the body—
Englishbut the mind enjoy. "Ah."
EnglishAnd moving.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…