Q&ANirodha Insight Meditation in Finland Retreat11 Jun 2019
Week 3 day 4 group G — Attitude Towards Defilements and Working with Restlessness
Sayadaw U Tejaniya · 1 hr 22 min
Original audio: Burmese · English interpretation
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This group interview clarifies right attitude when aware of defilements like greed, anger, restlessness, or attachment to joy. The teacher explains the difference between mindfulness (sati) and consciousness (viññāṇa), emphasizing the natural process of mind and the importance of practicing in a relaxed way.
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Transcript
EnglishUh, I keep doing, uh, open eyes and, uh, sitting, and it seems very, um,
Englishcontinuous throughout the day, and that's great. Um,
Englishand when walking,
EnglishI'm seeing a lot of greed, and I keep seeing it. I notice that there's always, like, kind of
Englishpreference, like identification. Um,
Englishand, like, just noticing is great. Um,
Englishwhen I don't realize it, there are different thoughts: "Oh, maybe I should take this path and go the other way," and "Maybe I should go around this way," and then I keep going, whether when I notice that, it's like, okay, it doesn't really matter. Either way, it's fine. Um,
Englishbut it just seems
Englishlike a defilement party. Like, every, every moment there's something that to be. Making a choice is not always a defilement. Right, but, um, I see,
EnglishI see like a little thing coming up: "Oh, I don't like this. Oh, I like this." There's like always a little thing here and there. Um, this seems funny because there are so many. Um. That's good. The messy point we made there, the disaster there, who will lunch out everybody, to I love everybody, I do it everywhere, who learn everybody, learn query everybody, to say, "Somphya," or "Kili dale," I see the little bit of everywhere.
[Burmese segment]
EnglishUm. Yeah, go look at, uh, to touch thick, cheap people, thick people, basically. I do like to like to like to kill it up. So it's good that you see all this. There's no need to judge any of it as right or wrong. Just, just keep recognizing and the process, the, the. It's dumb.
EnglishMm-hmm. When, when I see
Englishdefilement as a result of something, and that and. What do you mean as a result of something? Result of
Englishjust wanting something, or, um, the thought becoming,
Englishlike, a greedy thoughts, or, uh, aversive thoughts. Mm-hmm. That
Englishdefilement, and when Sayadaw says, like, attitude, that's like a, that's a different thing? Or that's the same thing? The attitude is, is, the attitude is the way you watch. Right. Right? Like, um, to a whole, yo-yo kilisane whole, the bottane below quale, lulu tuamela.
Englishor something like that. The Mm-hmm. So when Sayadaw talks about attitude, he's really talking about the way in which we watch something. Like, are we watching in a greedy way? Or are we watching in an aversive way?
EnglishYeah? Are we watching with resistance? Yeah? So that's what he means by attitude. Of course, we could have an attitude about things in general, right? Yeah, but he's concerned about the attitude with which we are observing. But.
EnglishLike, sometimes we might, um, be anxious in the way we are being mindful. Like, we're afraid to lose mindfulness, and we try very hard. So that, that's anxiety trying to be mindful, rather than, you know, just effort. There's anxiety also making the effort, you know? So, like, working with the effort. So, so that's what he's concerned about.
EnglishLike, what's working with our mindfulness? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Great. Thank you. Just angry attitude tends to see afterwards the angry thoughts. They're like greedy
Englishlens seems to see greedy thoughts. It's just, yeah, it's,
Englishit's, it's. Yeah, it's. It seemed connected, so I was just getting a bit confused, I guess. Um,
Englishyeah. Um, tua, tua mean I yo-yo se, upamana lobha seka chai dame na. Doda seka me chai dame ta te dame era ada garansi ra se te the bottane maho. Maho na, isi na, na se isi ni wano. Yeah. Ah, you feel too yeah. Yeah. When, when you see. The bottane athoni, athoni pek me si ya the bottane. Yeah.
EnglishWhen you see. me meo din yan. Okay. So Sayadaw said, um, he says what you're describing is just the experience, like the mind that you see. When the mind is colored, it, you know, when, when greed colors the mind, it likes what it sees.
EnglishOr, uh, when aversion colors the mind, it, it dislikes what it sees. That's what you're observing. That's the object, right? And then there's the way you notice this. Right. Right? That's the attitude he's talking about. So if, I don't know whether you see, if there's the 23 points of, um, how to have the right, like, what is the right attitude for meditation or something.
EnglishUm, one of them says, um,
Englishpit, pita. Piyang naman lune. Piyang naman lune. It says, "Don't try to." Piyang naman lune, piyang lune, doda. Yeah. Naiche tai me di moha. Like, trying, we're not trying to create something or push away something, right? And that's talking about the experience, right? Where, uh, we're not trying to hang on to the experience or push it away. But, um, but then we don't forget to be aware.
EnglishSo that's the, the attitude with which you're watching what you notice. So when you see that the mind is greedy, you don't, um, you don't reject it either. And, but you continue to recognize that this is what's happening. You, you continue to be aware. So that's the, the attitude with which you watch even the, those very minds again.
EnglishMm-mm. Okay. Are you wanting to see paññā mukhi? I don't know. So, look, it's kind of separating what's being seen from, from what is doing the watching. Right? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
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Sayadaw U Tejaniya began his Buddhist training as a young teenager in Burma under the late Shwe Oo Min Sayadaw (1913–2002). After a career in business and life as a householder, he has become a permanent monk since 1996.…